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    Small gas cylinder connection

    I have this small cylinder and Im curious if someone could point me in the right direction for the valve connection. Id like to be able to fill it from a larger cylinder, ideally.



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    Re: Small gas cylinder connection

    While that looks similar to a small medical oxygen bottle valve it is missing the o-ring.

    Here is a pic of the various types of valves that look similar.

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    I suggest you just buy a new valve of the correct type and use that. So much easier and probably cheaper than trying to buy fittings and adapters. Since this cylinder initially had air, you will need to purge it several times to remove the bulk of the air and any contaminants. Even then, your first couple of fills and welds will probably show bad gas while welding.
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    Re: Small gas cylinder connection

    Going to be hard to find the transfill hose made up with end on it to fit that I think. They fill them so that end is out there somewhere. Probably have to buy the pieces and have the hose made up at hydraulic supply.

    You may have a better deal by just replacing the valve with a more common type. Or is that the valve you use now and your regulator fits that already and needs to stay that way
    Last edited by danielplace; 07-07-2021 at 09:28 AM.

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    Re: Small gas cylinder connection

    Thank you both. It's a nitrogen tank and I would like to use it for a beverage-dispensing setup (e.g., wine). I agree that it seems easier to get a new valve for it.

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    Re: Small gas cylinder connection

    Quote Originally Posted by jwmelvin View Post
    Thank you both. It's a nitrogen tank and I would like to use it for a beverage-dispensing setup (e.g., wine). I agree that it seems easier to get a new valve for it.
    Nitrogen most commonly runs with the CGA-580 valve. CGA-580 will also have a transfill hose available.

    Unless you are going to change from nitrogen to C02 then most common is the CGA-320.

    CGA-580 Valve,

    https://www.amazon.com/Sherwood-CGA5.../dp/B01H0G47WS

    Transfill hose for CGA-580,

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/141767827217

    CGA-320 for C02,
    https://www.amazon.com/Sherwood-CGA3.../dp/B01GW30DG4
    Last edited by danielplace; 07-07-2021 at 02:23 PM.

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    Re: Small gas cylinder connection

    Thanks for the additional info.

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    Re: Small gas cylinder connection

    What gas to you want to fill the cylinder with? If CO2, you need to find out if you need a dip tube (also called a syphon tube) in the cylinder to draw out liquid CO2. Your cylinder won't work if you do. You'd also need a dip tube in the filling cylinder unless you wanted to lift the cylinder upside down to get the liquid out. CO2 is always a liquid form in the cylinder much like propane. In mix gases CO2 can be in the gas state but usually the CO2 is added first as a liquid and weighed to get the proper amount.
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    Re: Small gas cylinder connection

    Quote Originally Posted by Welder Dave View Post
    What gas to you want to fill the cylinder with?
    Since I have argon in a 330 cu fit cylinder for welding, Ill use that.

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    Re: Small gas cylinder connection

    Quote Originally Posted by jwmelvin View Post
    Since I have argon in a 330 cu fit cylinder for welding, I’ll use that.
    Argon is perfect for wine pressurization. Easier to transfer.

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    Re: Small gas cylinder connection

    It would funny to see a bunch of wino's standing on their heads because someone used too much argon to preserve/pressurize their wine. Instead of a needle exchange for drug addicts there could be an inversion table room for wino's.

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