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    Hi all, Iím just a newbie welder and have mostly been playing around with sheet metal repair in cars. But Iíve been attempting to tackle larger projects and would appreciate some feedback as Iíd like to improve. I have a Hobart 210mvp and with this project I used .030 wire and always use C25 gas. My biggest problem is seeing beyond the puddle. I have a Miller auto darkening helmet but I just canít seem to ever get it set right. It makes it hard to do a long continuous Straight bead when your basically blind. Anyways, I think some of these welds came out good but I struggled on the corners. Any tips you guys could give me based on these pics? Any feedback would be appreciated. Great site btw.

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    Here’s some closeup shots of a few of those welds.

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    Looks like it will work just fine. It looks as though you are getting good enough to start picking nits, so get your hood issue dealt with, go to your LWS and talk with them about it maybe. You you can see, then work on refining your welds a bit.

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    Thanks

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    Just more time under the hood. It takes a bit to get used to.

    I like my shade light- 8-9 and lots of ambient light for me.

    I'll set up a work light to illuminate the welding area.

    Outside is fine but you can get sunlight coming in through the back of the hood and glare off the inside of the lens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Broccoli1 View Post
    Just more time under the hood. It takes a bit to get used to.

    I like my shade light- 8-9 and lots of ambient light for me.

    I'll set up a work light to illuminate the welding area.

    Outside is fine but you can get sunlight coming in through the back of the hood and glare off the inside of the lens.
    Thanks I’ll try that. I’m ready to toss this helmet and try another.

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    Are sure you helmet is darkening?

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    Good prep job, mig welds don't always punch through mill scale well. Welds should be sufficient. Why not diamond plate ? Everything else seems to be. Just kidding, looks great. Really looks like a heavy duty winch.

    As to not seeing where you are going, are you pushing, or pulling the weld. When pushing the weld its usually easier to see the puddle and joint/seam.

    good luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by tapwelder View Post
    Are sure you helmet is darkening?
    Yes it does darken. I’ve tried different settings but just can’t seem to get it just right. Like I said I’m going to try a different one and see how that works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by albrightree View Post
    Good prep job, mig welds don't always punch through mill scale well. Welds should be sufficient. Why not diamond plate ? Everything else seems to be. Just kidding, looks great. Really looks like a heavy duty winch.

    As to not seeing where you are going, are you pushing, or pulling the weld. When pushing the weld its usually easier to see the puddle and joint/seam.

    good luck
    Thanks. Glad to hear the welds are decent. Generally I like to pull the puddle if I can. I’ll try pushing it and see if that helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gxjetmech View Post
    Yes it does darken. Iíve tried different settings but just canít seem to get it just right. Like I said Iím going to try a different one and see how that works.
    Go to local welding supplier and see if they have helmets you can test. The headgear can make a difference on fit and adjustments available.
    The better quality helmets are expensive. I feel they are worth the money. I'm still using my Miller Elite that's at least 10 years old.
    I'm considering the Miller ClearLight or Lincoln Viking. I never did considered a cheap auto darking. $300 isn't bad when you get 10 years out of one.


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    Nice build!! When you make your first hard pull hold a square against the front channel you added to see if it flexes any. If so maybe add some gussets to each side of it.
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    Your welds look good.

    When you say"basically blind" what ya mean? Is it an physical ailment or shade too light or too dark?. Or are you in the way?

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    theres a lil room for improvement/placement of the craters, but i like it, cuz u didnt overweld it. sometimes new guys, put too much weld on things

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    Quote Originally Posted by tapwelder View Post
    Your welds look good.

    When you say"basically blind" what ya mean? Is it an physical ailment or shade too light or too dark?. Or are you in the way?
    I just can’t see much beyond the puddle and before I know it I’m welding off the joint sometimes. Maybe I just need to play with the shade settings some more. Lighten it up some. I’m going to give it a try tomorrow and see if I can’t get this corrected. Because it definitely effects the way I weld and not in a good way.

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    Thanks for all the feedback guys. Iím glad to hear the welds look ok. Iíd hate to use the winch and have a weld fail in the middle of the pull. Iíve just read up on welding a little and just kind of wung it. So its good to get some critiques, good or bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gxjetmech View Post
    I just canít see much beyond the puddle and before I know it Iím welding off the joint sometimes. Maybe I just need to play with the shade settings some more. Lighten it up some. Iím going to give it a try tomorrow and see if I canít get this corrected. Because it definitely effects the way I weld and not in a good way.
    Check out video's on Welding hoods filmed through the hood. The shade tint, viewing area, all affect how well you see.
    Setup a halogen light or better yet, a photography light is great.
    Try to position the light for best viewing. That can be tough to do.
    Depending on your hood, lights are available to attach to them.

    https://www.millerwelds.com/products/helmetlighting

    Making a line with soapstone or white pipe marker will help as a guide. There are a variety of markers available.

    Here's a Miller one




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    Quote Originally Posted by BD1 View Post
    Check out video's on Welding hoods filmed through the hood. The shade tint, viewing area, all affect how well you see.
    Setup a halogen light or better yet, a photography light is great.
    Try to position the light for best viewing. That can be tough to do.
    Depending on your hood, lights are available to attach to them.

    https://www.millerwelds.com/products/helmetlighting

    Making a line with soapstone or white pipe marker will help as a guide. There are a variety of markers available.



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    I have tried using some additional light on the joint which definitely helped. I just went out and looked at my helmet, it’s a Miller Digital Elite. The problem I have is that on the lightest setting (8) It’s still to dark. Maybe I should try a different mode? Thanks for those tips tho. I’ll try those as well.

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    OK, I have to ask if you removed the plastic coating on the inside or outside of the lens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mla2ofus View Post
    OK, I have to ask if you removed the plastic coating on the inside or outside of the lens.
    Lol, I did. I just pulled it all apart to make sure I didn’t do something like that.

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    OK, it's happened to some others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mla2ofus View Post
    OK, it's happened to some others.
    The Miller lenses have a Blue pattern on the clear plastic. It has been done before.


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    Looks like job.
    Basically the more you weld and fab the better you become.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gxjetmech View Post
    Hi all, Iím just a newbie welder and have mostly been playing around with sheet metal repair in cars. But Iíve been attempting to tackle larger projects and would appreciate some feedback as Iíd like to improve. I have a Hobart 210mvp and with this project I used .030 wire and always use C25 gas. My biggest problem is seeing beyond the puddle. I have a Miller auto darkening helmet but I just canít seem to ever get it set right. It makes it hard to do a long continuous Straight bead when your basically blind. Anyways, I think some of these welds came out good but I struggled on the corners. Any tips you guys could give me based on these pics? Any feedback would be appreciated. Great site btw.

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    Are you over 40 years old? you may need a "cheater lens" inside your helmet.
    Go to a local pharmacy, and try the various power reading glasses, at the distance that you normally weld.

    Look at the glasses, it will have a magnification power listed (like 1.50,,, or 2.00 etc)
    You need to then acquire a cheater lens that is the same "power" as the reading glasses that you liked.

    It will be the best $5 to $10 you ever spent on welding equipment,,

    https://www.amazon.com/Cheater-Lens-...843577&sr=8-32

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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetMK View Post
    Are you over 40 years old? you may need a "cheater lens" inside your helmet.
    Go to a local pharmacy, and try the various power reading glasses, at the distance that you normally weld.

    Look at the glasses, it will have a magnification power listed (like 1.50,,, or 2.00 etc)
    You need to then acquire a cheater lens that is the same "power" as the reading glasses that you liked.

    It will be the best $5 to $10 you ever spent on welding equipment,,

    https://www.amazon.com/Cheater-Lens-...843577&sr=8-32
    Ya I’m 54 and have bi focals. Ill try a set of cheaters, it’s worth a shot.

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