Everlast beginner tig

[GoK4rtFanatic]

Okay great, then I think I’ll go with primeweld because it come with a regulator and foot pedal as well as a flex torch. High frequency start is also nice for a beginner.

[M J D]

You will most likely need some type of windbreak but you can certainly Tig weld outdoors. Since you plan on using Tig welding as you primary,if not only process a decent dedicated machine is what your after. The primeweld 225 is an excellent starter machine that you probably will never out grow. Fit up on parts is pretty critical so getting tools and developing the skills to do that will help immensely. By the time you become proficient you will have spent a lot of time and money especially on tools, but your results will continue to get better.

[G-ManBart]

Don't listen to the naysayers, there's always going to be strong personal opinions and not any "broad sample" of, actual, facts. Everlast makes a Great welder and you aren't going to have Any more problems with an Everlast than you are with any other one...

I'd be interested in the data you used to come up with that absolute. I'd bet any amount of money it's simply your opinion...rather than actual data.

[INXS2]

I had Miller and Lincoln which are great welders, sold them because I wanted some thing newer. I bought a Everlast Power MTS 251Si in 2016 and have had great success with it. The only problems I had were the same as in the #3 post. No starting chart and condescending support when asking questions to customer support. I'm a hobby welder and don't use my machines very often. I solved the second problem by talking to a "higher up" in the company. 3 years later I bought a second machine, MTS 221STi because it had AC/DC Tig unlike the 251Si (I was told they would never be building a AC/DC MTS when I bought the 251Si). Oh well, I like them both and haven't had any problems, yet. I also bought their 52i Plasma cutter and it works great!. Just my 2 cents worth.

[BaTu]

I'd be interested in the data you used to come up with that absolute. I'd bet any amount of money it's simply your opinion...rather than actual data.

No "Data", just a combination of my Opinion (as we All have and no different), Logic (it's a Very successful company with Tremendous Growth over the past decade or more and if it were actually "NeverLast" that wouldn't be the case), and finally and maybe most Importantly, I don't make my decisions and opinions on the Tribalistic, Us~vs~Them, Black & White, 100% Good or 100% Bad lens that the world has become ~hehe

Seriously, Come On, they make a pretty good welder, don't they?

[lugweld]

Save the shilling for someone else. Your companies action show otherwise.

Oh boy. Same old stuff, different day with you. Keep your head buried in the sand. People like you are our best sales people, because your posts make people dig deeper. I can't even begin to tell you how your posts have helped us but people like you seriously do help our sales because the dig deep and look and go where people are actually using the machines on other forums and where there are tens of thousands of Everlast owners posting and participating and they see a very different picture. Thanks.

[M J D]

Oh boy. Same old stuff, different day with you. Keep your head buried in the sand. People like you are our best sales people, because your posts make people dig deeper. I can't even begin to tell you how your posts have helped us but people like you seriously do help our sales because the dig deep and look and go where people are actually using the machines on other forums and where there are tens of thousands of Everlast owners posting and participating and they see a very different picture. Thanks.

Oh yeah the shilling never stops. Good to hear your welders sales are working out, I'd hate to see you grifting shell games or whatever else grifters do .

[G-ManBart]

No "Data", just a combination of my Opinion (as we All have and no different), Logic (it's a Very successful company with Tremendous Growth over the past decade or more and if it were actually "NeverLast" that wouldn't be the case), and finally and maybe most Importantly, I don't make my decisions and opinions on the Tribalistic, Us~vs~Them, Black & White, 100% Good or 100% Bad lens that the world has become ~hehe

Seriously, Come On, they make a pretty good welder, don't they?

That's all well and good, but you're claiming something you can't possibly know. You'd have to get inside information from multiple companies, who aren't going to share it. Short of that it's one big guess.

Across multiple welding forums there are a lot of posts about Harbor Freight welders showing up DOA, but next up in frequency seems to be Everlast and AHP (same company for all practical purposes). I don't recall a Primeweld showing up DOA, but a few have failed very early on and were quickly replaced going off memory. I can't recall how many times, if ever, I've seen someone say they had a Miller, Lincoln or an HTP show up DOA...maybe it's happened but I don't recall reading about it.

I've owned two Everlast welders and one developed issues almost from the start and had to be replaced, but it was a huge hassle with them sending me the wrong parts multiple times, and then no change with the correct parts until after countless e-mails and phone calls they offered a replacement. So, I guess I'm 50/50 with them.

You say folks would have the same chance of getting a bad welder from any company, and I've had over 50 welders from Lincoln and Miller and all of them have worked just fine. Maybe I got really lucky 50+ times in a row...

As far as Everlast's "tremendous growth" I have to wonder who's putting out those numbers, but I'll bet it's not an independent entity. It's not like they're a publicly traded company who has to publish an annual report with actual numbers. They can claim all the growth they want, but I'm not so sure that's true.

It's funny, but Everlast has been selling their machines on Amazon since before I bought mine. I just looked at the reviews on the PowerTIG 210EXT and they go back into 2015. They've only got 35 ratings.

PrimeWeld starting selling on Amazon in 2018 and their 225X has 740 ratings and a higher score. Now I know Mark/lugweld is going to read this and post something about how Amazon is 1% of their total sales or some other BS...but six years and 35 ratings versus 3 years and 740 ratings is telling. For some reason hundreds of happy PrimeWeld customers go out of their way to post how happy they are. Funny, they say it's always the unhappy customers who go out of their way to make a statement...clearly that must be wrong!

[BaTu]

My first Everlast welder was a 2011, a PP256 that I ran, Hard, at 250A (welding 1/4" Alum) for a long time without trouble. My only complaint was with their personnel, you have had a much different experience and, I would think, not really Typical of their base. I have NOT has 50 welders though! (maybe 8...)

At the time I bought it, Everlast was a relatively unknown supplier (the world was mostly Miller/Lincoln). Things have changed since then, I think they've taken their place as a "Player" and, if too many people had your experience with their equipment, I don't see that as happening...

The point I was making was more about the "NeverLast" nonsense and the loss of objectivity that seems so prevalent today. I'm sure PrimeWeld and HTP are also good welders and, of course you're right, have no information who has more returns between them all, it's just that they're All, seemingly, equally successful and wouldn't be if Everlast made crappy welders.

NeverLast is much like FoundOnRoadDead I'm a Ford guy, my 7.3 rulez! But that doesn't mean to Me that a Cummings 12v or that DuraMax/Allison combo are Crap!

[JDM Welder]

PrimeWeld starting selling on Amazon in 2018 and their 225X has 740 ratings and a higher score. Now I know Mark/lugweld is going to read this and post something about how Amazon is 1% of their total sales or some other BS...but six years and 35 ratings versus 3 years and 740 ratings is telling. For some reason hundreds of happy PrimeWeld customers go out of their way to post how happy they are. Funny, they say it's always the unhappy customers who go out of their way to make a statement...clearly that must be wrong!

Thing is, it's not just the negative ratings. Reading through a lot of them, you'll find four-star ratings where people are happy because they were sent a new one after the first one arrived DOA...LMAO

[G-ManBart]

But that doesn't mean to Me that a Cummings 12v or that DuraMax/Allison combo are Crap!

What's a Cummings?

[Lis2323]

What's a Cummings?

Apparently a knockoff diesel engine from Malaysia to be avoided at all costs.


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[albrightree]

I thought it was a city in Georgia ???

[BaTu]

Actually,,, the City my Daughter and Grandkids live in (and maybe the reason for my Typo...)

[G-ManBart]

Apparently a knockoff diesel engine from Malaysia to be avoided at all costs.

I was thinking it was made in Cummings, Saskatchewan? Probably has oversized glow plugs for the cold up there!

[Broccoli1]

Okay great, then I think I’ll go with primeweld because it come with a regulator and foot pedal as well as a flex torch. High frequency start is also nice for a beginner.

Where are you located?

[shovelon]

Okay great, then I think I’ll go with primeweld because it come with a regulator and foot pedal as well as a flex torch. High frequency start is also nice for a beginner.

Good choice. Very few negative reviews. And a good number of people here that own them too for advise.

As far as the other company, it is not the equipment that is suspect, but the support.

[GoK4rtFanatic]

Thanks to all for your input. I just went with the Primeweld TIG200DC, since I won't really be doing aluminum anytime soon. I had a discount coupon for it anyway so all the better. Anyways, thanks again, I don't think I would have ever noticed primeweld until you all mentioned it.