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    Re: HF 4 in. x 6 in. Horizontal/Vertical Metal Cutting Band Saw. Is it any good?

    Any vertical handsaw, even a portaband, will cut those curves pretty easily with the correct blade

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    Re: HF 4 in. x 6 in. Horizontal/Vertical Metal Cutting Band Saw. Is it any good?

    Quote Originally Posted by smithdoor View Post
    I have drawing on turning a hacksaw to power saw.
    The blades are so cheap and fits in a small workshop. But I went and purchased a 4x6 saw.

    FYI I used torch till purchased the 4x6 saw.

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    I use a grinder and reciprocating saw now but i think im going to get the bandsaw,

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    Re: HF 4 in. x 6 in. Horizontal/Vertical Metal Cutting Band Saw. Is it any good?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lis2323 View Post
    I’m curious to know what variable speed motor you have.


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    My variable speed motor is a 2.5 HP treadmill motor. Its a DC motor. Its small compared to other 2HP motors so I'm wondering how durable it will be. It says its rated for HD use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louie1961 View Post
    Any vertical handsaw, even a portaband, will cut those curves pretty easily with the correct blade
    What kind of blade would i use for cutting curves?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Need Advice View Post
    My variable speed motor is a 2.5 HP treadmill motor. Its a DC motor. Its small compared to other 2HP motors so I'm wondering how durable it will be. It says its rated for HD use.
    Its a treadmill motor. The HD most likely stands for heavy douche.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lis2323 View Post
    Its a treadmill motor. The “HD” most likely stands for heavy douche.


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    lol, thanks. Actually its rated at Continual use but i read somewhere that means its HD. If it wont work for a belt grinder it cost me nothing.

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    Re: HF 4 in. x 6 in. Horizontal/Vertical Metal Cutting Band Saw. Is it any good?

    I had one for years and had very few issues with it. It made 1,000's of cuts. I made a stand for mine because I had to move it around a lot and the stock stand would not take it. Look up some of my post under reebz or reebs. I posted modifications

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    HF 4 in. x 6 in. Horizontal/Vertical Metal Cutting Band Saw. Is it any good?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reebz View Post
    I had one for years and had very few issues with it. It made 1,000's of cuts. I made a stand for mine because I had to move it around a lot and the stock stand would not take it. Look up some of my post under reebz or reebs. I posted modifications
    If youre (re)building an OEM stand consider making it higher as your back will thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Need Advice View Post
    What kind of blade would i use for cutting curves?

    Bi-metal blade is better than the plain steel blade, but I think teeth per inch (TPI) may be more important. The ones at HF are just fine. You need to use an appropriate TPI for the thickness of material you want to cut. If it were me I would try to go with 18-24 TPI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louie1961 View Post
    Bi-metal blade is better than the plain steel blade, but I think teeth per inch (TPI) may be more important. The ones at HF are just fine. You need to use an appropriate TPI for the thickness of material you want to cut. If it were me I would try to go with 18-24 TPI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reebz View Post
    Nice. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Need Advice View Post
    What kind of blade would i use for cutting curves?
    Blade selection depends on thickness. 10-14 is a good general purpose, 14-18 tpi if your cutting really thin material. Anything finer,( higher number of teeth) is a waste of time and won't clear enough of a kerf for cutting curves. With a 1/2" wide blade, ( which your limited to with a HF 4x6" saw or a porta band) your limited in the minimum radius you can cut. About a 4" radius is the limit without relief cuts. The work around is to make relief cuts 90 degrees to the cut line. Spacing depending on the size of radius. For what you plan to do,( at least to my understanding) the 4x6 saw is about the perfect solution to what your cutting. Hole saws on a drill press is another way to make some tight radius cuts as well. I've cut out some parts that required a band saw, hole saw, belt grinder to shape outside and files to fine tune inside curves . A dedicated vertical saw really shines for that type of work as different width blades can be used. I've used a 10-14 tpi blade, 1/4" wide to do some pretty detailed cuts on 1/8" -1/4" material with my vertical saw. Lots of ways to do it. A jig saw with the material supported by 2" styrofoam works extremely well also

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    Re: HF 4 in. x 6 in. Horizontal/Vertical Metal Cutting Band Saw. Is it any good?

    The OP stated in another thread he wants to cut 20 gauge sheet steel to make metal roses. I also suggested a jig saw. In a band saw I really do think he'll need the higher tooth count for such thing material

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    20 gauge I would cut with aviation snips as far as tighter curves go. If I ws using the band saw I would use the 14-18 blade. Beverley type shear would be another option for that material.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M J D View Post
    Blade selection depends on thickness. 10-14 is a good general purpose, 14-18 tpi if your cutting really thin material. Anything finer,( higher number of teeth) is a waste of time and won't clear enough of a kerf for cutting curves. With a 1/2" wide blade, ( which your limited to with a HF 4x6" saw or a porta band) your limited in the minimum radius you can cut. About a 4" radius is the limit without relief cuts. The work around is to make relief cuts 90 degrees to the cut line. Spacing depending on the size of radius. For what you plan to do,( at least to my understanding) the 4x6 saw is about the perfect solution to what your cutting. Hole saws on a drill press is another way to make some tight radius cuts as well. I've cut out some parts that required a band saw, hole saw, belt grinder to shape outside and files to fine tune inside curves . A dedicated vertical saw really shines for that type of work as different width blades can be used. I've used a 10-14 tpi blade, 1/4" wide to do some pretty detailed cuts on 1/8" -1/4" material with my vertical saw. Lots of ways to do it. A jig saw with the material supported by 2" styrofoam works extremely well also
    Quote Originally Posted by Louie1961 View Post
    The OP stated in another thread he wants to cut 20 gauge sheet steel to make metal roses. I also suggested a jig saw. In a band saw I really do think he'll need the higher tooth count for such thing material
    Quote Originally Posted by M J D View Post
    20 gauge I would cut with aviation snips as far as tighter curves go. If I ws using the band saw I would use the 14-18 blade. Beverley type shear would be another option for that material.
    Thanks guys.

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    Re: HF 4 in. x 6 in. Horizontal/Vertical Metal Cutting Band Saw. Is it any good?

    Hope for photo of new saw.

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    Thanks guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smithdoor View Post
    Hope for photo of new saw.

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    It will be a while. I have house repairs I need to do first.

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    I use mind on home repairs handy saw for around the home too.

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    It will be a while. I have house repairs I need to do first.

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    Re: HF 4 in. x 6 in. Horizontal/Vertical Metal Cutting Band Saw. Is it any good?

    I use my band saws for wood stuff all the time as well!

    In vertical they're great for cutting out those odd shapes or angles, and in horizontal they make great big timber saws (will miter well too!).

    A wood blade (6 tpi usually) will help but I never change it over. I just make sure all metal chips/shavings/filings are off the surface for wood that will be seen (or it will embed itself and cause rusting problems down the line).

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowBlues View Post
    I use my band saws for wood stuff all the time as well!

    In vertical they're great for cutting out those odd shapes or angles, and in horizontal they make great big timber saws (will miter well too!).

    A wood blade (6 tpi usually) will help but I never change it over. I just make sure all metal chips/shavings/filings are off the surface for wood that will be seen (or it will embed itself and cause rusting problems down the line).
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    Re: HF 4 in. x 6 in. Horizontal/Vertical Metal Cutting Band Saw. Is it any good?

    Quote Originally Posted by smithdoor View Post
    I use mind on home repairs handy saw for around the home too.

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    I'm excited about getting this saw but i have electrical and heating repairs i need to do first. I need a wire tracer so i can pinpoint a bad circuit, and i might need new wire as well. I had to change all the receptacles in my house which fixed one problem but i still have one bad circuit and I'm not sure why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Need Advice View Post
    I'm excited about getting this saw but i have electrical and heating repairs i need to do first. I need a wire tracer so i can pinpoint a bad circuit, and i might need new wire as well. I had to change all the receptacles in my house which fixed one problem but i still have one bad circuit and I'm not sure why.
    Depending on what is on the circuit, routing, and accessiblity, it maybe best to abandon and run new Romex or conduit to those locations.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BD1 View Post
    Depending on what is on the circuit, routing, and accessiblity, it maybe best to abandon and run new Romex or conduit to those locations.


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    Its not hard to run a new circuit in that location because i plan on doing some remodeling to the walls anyway.

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    Re: HF 4 in. x 6 in. Horizontal/Vertical Metal Cutting Band Saw. Is it any good?

    Conduit and gas lines saw works great

    FYI I found replacing is faster that tracing. If one bad spot there a new bad spot tomorrow.

    Quote Originally Posted by Need Advice View Post
    I'm excited about getting this saw but i have electrical and heating repairs i need to do first. I need a wire tracer so i can pinpoint a bad circuit, and i might need new wire as well. I had to change all the receptacles in my house which fixed one problem but i still have one bad circuit and I'm not sure why.

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