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    Quote Originally Posted by ghost_walker View Post
    not really clear from the pics how it was the wrong end. unless you mean the distance of the holes from the piece you welded in.

    in that case would it not have been easier just to drill another hole? and say i meant to do that?
    Later today, when I make the cradles, it'll become apparent how I screwed up by welding the plugs on the wrong end. It's a clearance thing.

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    A few steps forward I guess. Didn't have enough time to completely finish the cradles............just the angle thingies.

    Thank you 12v71 for the angle measurements. I did one at 123*, then one at 120*.................120* just looks better, and if it looks good, it's right. Appreciate it

    Cobbled together a fixture, and got after it.

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Size:  175.5 KB The root pass. Tons of arc blow, probably due to the triangular shaped fixture, and whatever............ Keep pushing back into the puddle, and you can fill the arc blow blowouts. This pass gets buried anyways (shrug) 3/32 Excalibur 85amps

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Size:  178.7 KB The cover cover pass............... I walk from side to side, filling, and building, to prevent undercut. 1/8 Atom Arc 125amps.

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Size:  219.2 KB Clean it up, and fill the crater left from the cover pass. 3/32 Excalibur 85amps. See all the arc blow BB's on the table

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Size:  198.7 KB All 6 turned out identical. AND THEY DIDN'T PULL WHEN WELDED I was shocked, I expected them to spring out of shape after coming off the fixture. Wonders never cease I guess. I'll maybe get around to check them to see if they held the angle they were fixtured at...........I do know they didn't move a hair when unclamped...........Amazing.

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Size:  201.8 KB This is the difference between a bent angle, and a welded angle. A perfect corner. PITA to do. Have to mill the flat to absolutely square the stock where it joins so that it will fit nice and square. Have to be judicious when welding so that you don't blow through the root. Has to be hot, but not hot enough to blow through.

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    Or weld stools

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    sammm, if you do, I recommend steel stools......

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    a steel stool? i'd go see a proctologist about that!

    and thats the tone successfully lowered, my work here is done.

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    Been down for about 3 days. Seems I either bruised a rib, or messed up a muscle, doing those damn overhead welds. Had to lean against the table to get in position, and it has a 3/16 top. Musta done some damage with the relatively sharp edge

    Anyways, it still sucks, and I'm about 50% functional

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Size:  242.1 KB Slotted it to take the cradles. Little FYI. Do your cuts from the ID. Saves on end mills, and takes the stress of the milling machine.

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Size:  183.3 KB Almost ready for welding. Need to cut a slot in the body of the DOM for a weld to lock it all in place. This is medium carbon steel that it's gonna be welded to, and I can only treat the weld like a locking thing. The parts have been sized to fit the Acme thread to about a .003 clearance, and any welds are only to lock the DOM in place. This is totally unweldable steel in a field scenario.

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Size:  241.8 KB I get a bonus Brewski Night when I'm at the end of a project. Sittin' there in the shop, and got to thinking about the stuff I own. This old transformer welder had been doin' its thing for over maybe 20yrs. Show me an inverter that can do the same. The new stuff is pure crap, at a premium price. Anyways was a pleasant evening.........got the gurlz fed, fired up the heaters, and chilled out for a while. World Series Night I was surprised that the Astros didnt' bring garbage cans to the stadium

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    Quote Originally Posted by farmersammm View Post
    I was surprised that the Astros didnt' bring garbage cans to the stadium
    Knowing those guys, you never know what they might have up their sleeves............maybe that's where they're hiding the cameras now!! LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by farmersammm View Post
    Been down for about 3 days. Seems I either bruised a rib, or messed up a muscle, doing those damn overhead welds. Had to lean against the table to get in position, and it has a 3/16 top. Musta done some damage with the relatively sharp edge

    Anyways, it still sucks, and I'm about 50% functional

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Size:  242.1 KB Slotted it to take the cradles. Little FYI. Do your cuts from the ID. Saves on end mills, and takes the stress of the milling machine.

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Size:  183.3 KB Almost ready for welding. Need to cut a slot in the body of the DOM for a weld to lock it all in place. This is medium carbon steel that it's gonna be welded to, and I can only treat the weld like a locking thing. The parts have been sized to fit the Acme thread to about a .003 clearance, and any welds are only to lock the DOM in place. This is totally unweldable steel in a field scenario.

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Size:  241.8 KB I get a bonus Brewski Night when I'm at the end of a project. Sittin' there in the shop, and got to thinking about the stuff I own. This old transformer welder had been doin' its thing for over maybe 20yrs. Show me an inverter that can do the same. The new stuff is pure crap, at a premium price. Anyways was a pleasant evening.........got the gurlz fed, fired up the heaters, and chilled out for a while. World Series Night I was surprised that the Astros didnt' bring garbage cans to the stadium
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Size:  128.8 KB. Try 25 years for this one. I'd wager it's done a hell of a lot more welding than that toy Lincoln.
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    Thermal Locknut


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    A193 isn't supposed to be welded, unless you follow a bunch of preheat/interpass/post weld heat treatment.

    Well...................We here at the Uranus production line just don't have time for that sorta claptrap

    The DOM holds the cradle to the Acme rod (.003 clearance), then the slot is filled to destroy the thread and adjacent rod..........thermal locknutName:  tkqe4fh-smiley-two-thumbs-up175028_285604.gif
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Size:  249.1 KB Tacking was sort of a nail biter. If the DOM isn't exactly square, everything else will be off.

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Size:  186.7 KB The tacks are cut off, then the gaps are filled. I had sort of a problem figuring out the sequence of the welds. I settled on working around the circle, backstepping into the previous cold start. Transitioning from the small welds made with the 3/32 was interesting. The large gaps were filled with 1/8. Weird feeling to just sit there, and let the rod run in the same place to fill the deep pockets. Once the puddle has gone underneath the full edge, then you can drag it along. Wire would have been perfect for this. As it was.............it took 6 individual welds to do each circle.

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Size:  185.4 KB The tight tolerance for the fit between DOM, and Acme rod, paid off. All of the rods had to be seated with a dead blow hammer after the heat tweaked them a bit. This made for perfect alignment, and they all turned out nice and straight.

    The portion of the Acme rod that fits inside the DOM was cleaned with brake cleaner prior to insertion. This A193 will have a tendency towards embrittlement when welded, so I felt that all oil had to be removed from the threads............no point in adding more carbon to the weld pool.

    Do a bit of a spot preheat tomorrow, and weld the slots up. I don't expect the welds to be "good", just expect them to lock the cradle to the rod. They're non load bearing welds, and far enough away from any critical area that might affect the strength of the rod due to the heat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M J D View Post
    Try 25 years for this one. I'd wager it's done a hell of a lot more welding than that toy Lincoln.
    I think our XMT is 27 or 28 years old now. I sold it to my brother in the summer. I'm glad its still around, it's a fantastic machine on stick or MIG. Gave it a real workout in the summer on structural steelwork for a shed, the on-demand fan still rarely came on.

    The saddles look good, Sam!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Munkul View Post
    I think our XMT is 27 or 28 years old now. I sold it to my brother in the summer. I'm glad its still around, it's a fantastic machine on stick or MIG. Gave it a real workout in the summer on structural steelwork for a shed, the on-demand fan still rarely came on.

    The saddles look good, Sam!
    I sold my seven year old XMT350 last year. (It was a one year old unit I purchased off eBay)


    I know I will miss it.

    I chose to recoup my investment while I could.


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    I think that if I was making these I would have made the connection from the collar to Acme thread an interference fit, about 5 thousands. Then to install heated the collar to make it grow the 5 thou, slip it on the Acme thread, let it cool and be done with it. Just an idea for consideration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leightrepairs View Post
    I think that if I was making these I would have made the connection from the collar to Acme thread an interference fit, about 5 thousands. Then to install heated the collar to make it grow the 5 thou, slip it on the Acme thread, let it cool and be done with it. Just an idea for consideration.
    That or just drill and pin. I have never put lifting loads on a pipe stand.

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    I had to chuckle at , " we don't have time..." Pipe stands look good. Mill work , always fun to see what other do.

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    I guess this one's oh-fish-ally closed out Done deal, ready for the history books Ready to go to work. Finally()

    I generally like to look back on the journey, because just about everything I do is a one-off. I enjoy it, and hope others do too.

    I sometimes wonder if people live good lives. Some seem so miserable in their own existence that they have a crying need to infect the world with their own particular brand of funk I gave that up years ago, when I met K'kins, and life turned golden. Haven't been banned since I met her

    I suddenly realized that I had a charmed life. I live about 100mi. from the nearest big city. I get up when I want, and go to sleep when I want. I step out on my porch, and know it's mine to the tree line over at the mile section. It's a good life. I gave up on being a miserable human being. All the aggressive BS flew out the door. I'm livin' the Life of Riley. I get to kiss K'kins on her nose tonight when we go to bed. Life's good.

    (The old Farmersam woulda told ya.......................don't like it.............shove it up URANUS)

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    "It is as it should be...". I am very happy for you Sammm


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    Quote Originally Posted by farmersammm View Post
    B Show me an inverter that can do the same. The new stuff is pure crap, at a premium price.
    Great pics as always! If you're still around, I'll be happy to show you my inverter stick welders 20+ years down the line.

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    You did a nice job on those.
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    I did the deal on the 8" pipe today, and I got to looking at those things According to the load sheet.............3 joints (40' apiece) weigh just under 3700#

    I weigh in at just a bit over 150#, and the bulk of my testosterone flew South for the Winter (Golden years my azz). This means I'm in no shape to be wrestling 1200# bits of pipe to cut them, let alone mark them for the cut. Used to be a pretty sinewy guy, but I'd estimate I've lost at least 25% of my muscle mass with age. I can cut them to shorter lengths, for the blanks, while they're on the ground, but I don't care to fight them when they're in 13' pieces.

    Anyways.................On the way out of town, I stopped at Harbor Freight,, and picked up 4 casters so's I can make a pair of roller heads for the pipe stands.

    They're rated to 330# each, so I'm thinking that ought to be enough. That gives me a 660# capacity per stand.

    Fingered out the design while at Carl's Junior, so it's more stuff to deal with I guess.

    I figure they might also come in handy for welding roundy thingy splices one day. The possibilities are absolutely endless!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by farmersammm View Post
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    I did the deal on the 8" pipe today, and I got to looking at those things According to the load sheet.............3 joints (40' apiece) weigh just under 3700#

    I weigh in at just a bit over 150#, and the bulk of my testosterone flew South for the Winter (Golden years my azz). This means I'm in no shape to be wrestling 1200# bits of pipe to cut them, let alone mark them for the cut. Used to be a pretty sinewy guy, but I'd estimate I've lost at least 25% of my muscle mass with age. I can cut them to shorter lengths, for the blanks, while they're on the ground, but I don't care to fight them when they're in 13' pieces.

    Anyways.................On the way out of town, I stopped at Harbor Freight,, and picked up 4 casters so's I can make a pair of roller heads for the pipe stands.

    They're rated to 330# each, so I'm thinking that ought to be enough. That gives me a 660# capacity per stand.

    Fingered out the design while at Carl's Junior, so it's more stuff to deal with I guess.

    I figure they might also come in handy for welding roundy thingy splices one day. The possibilities are absolutely endless!!!!!!!!!!!!
    You're going to wish you had gone with steel casters. Just saying. Narrow ones are even better. Those cheapos will flat spot if you leave a load on them for more than a few minutes.
    I realize my years of experience with pipe don't count, but...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 12V71 View Post
    You're going to wish you had gone with steel casters. Just saying. Narrow ones are even better. Those cheapos will flat spot if you leave a load on them for more than a few minutes.
    I realize my years of experience with pipe don't count, but...
    Those casters will be nothing but problems. I would cut the plastic off of a laundry detergent bottle and line the vee head to reduce friction before that garbage.

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    Those casters will be nothing but problems.
    Gotta agree there, I'm thinking the pipe will sink into the wheel in no time................Mike

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    Leogl recommended greasing the saddles so the pipe could turn, maybe I'll go that route first, and see how it works.

    Any non-wheel way of doin' this sorta worries me. My greatest concern is the pipe trying to climb the saddles.

    I don't know if the steel casters come with bearings. I had a very bad experience with steel-on-steel rotating results. When I built the bale wrapper, the first design had steel on steel bushings/shaft...............total disaster. The increased turning effort made it a PITA to work with. Had to totally redesign it, using pillow block bearings. Now the bale wrapper is a joy to use, literally. I can purchase 1-3yr old hay with crapped up net wrap, or twine....................................get it for cheap. Show up with the Uranus Reddi Wrap, and do a bale in under a minute Then Sammy climbs back in the truck, and heads home with his 10-$15 round balesName:  tkqe4fh-smiley-two-thumbs-up175028_285604.gif
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    With today's modern balers, that run 'em tight......the greatest loss on old bales is on the bottom, not the top. You might lose up to a max of maybe 25%. Gotta guy that has bales that can't even be transported anymore, because the wrap is so trashed, you can get some real good prices. The gurls don't care if it's old hay. If it's been put up right, it's still green in the bale.

    Anyways.............back to casters...........I'll check if they come with bearings.

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    When I built the bale wrapper, the first design had steel on steel bushings/shaft...............total disaster.
    Because of RPM maybe? You won't be going that fast rolling pipe....will you :-) ?..........Mike

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