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    Another thing to consider when you are starting out is your vision and seeing the puddle.

    If you do not use glasses, a set of cheater lenses or even reading glasses can help to slightly magnify the size of the puddle. If you use glasses, a set of cheater lenses in the hood may help.

    Initially, it is hard for some to differentiate between the various parts of the material, arc and puddle due to brightness.

    A good quality helmet adjusted properly allows you to see those parts without blinding you.

    Plus new welders have a hard time figuring out gun angle, head angle and the moving both of those and their hands.



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    [QUOTE=Ambull01;8830887]

    "I'm jealous of all your welders. Why do you have so many of them?"

    Well... I do have 2 hands... and 2 shops I do repair work in for my farm. The Forney was a first purchase my Dad bought back in the mid 70's . The Sears was covered in bird dung at a farm auction and I picked it up for $40 because nobody wanted to touch it to load it. It also saved me from having to keep moving one stick welder between the 2 shops. The MIG I wanted for sheet metal work and I won a 115v machine in a draw, so I traded up to a 230 with gas when I went to pick it up. I always wanted a DC machine because my overhead welding sucks (not sure I really cured that problem) and Minnesota Dave made me an offer I couldn't refuse, so the Dialarc made the pandemic trip across the border last summer. I need O/A for cutting, and the cheap Chinese plasma was pretty much an experiment in seeing how long it will last... still going. The short answer is, it's an addiction, and now you've got it....
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    Quote Originally Posted by psacustomcreations View Post
    Another thing to consider when you are starting out is your vision and seeing the puddle.

    If you do not use glasses, a set of cheater lenses or even reading glasses can help to slightly magnify the size of the puddle. If you use glasses, a set of cheater lenses in the hood may help.

    Initially, it is hard for some to differentiate between the various parts of the material, arc and puddle due to brightness.

    A good quality helmet adjusted properly allows you to see those parts without blinding you.

    Plus new welders have a hard time figuring out gun angle, head angle and the moving both of those and their hands.

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    I don't use glasses, used to but got LASIK surgery a while ago so perfect vision so far. I saw some YouTube videos on beginners having difficulty seeing the puddle and also bought a helmet that supposedly helps with that. Helmet could be just marketing BS though, we'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ambull01 View Post

    "I'm jealous of all your welders. Why do you have so many of them?"

    Well... I do have 2 hands... and 2 shops I do repair work in for my farm. The Forney was a first purchase my Dad bought back in the mid 70's . The Sears was covered in bird dung at a farm auction and I picked it up for $40 because nobody wanted to touch it to load it. It also saved me from having to keep moving one stick welder between the 2 shops. The MIG I wanted for sheet metal work and I won a 115v machine in a draw, so I traded up to a 230 with gas when I went to pick it up. I always wanted a DC machine because my overhead welding sucks (not sure I really cured that problem) and Minnesota Dave made me an offer I couldn't refuse, so the Dialarc made the pandemic trip across the border last summer. I need O/A for cutting, and the cheap Chinese plasma was pretty much an experiment in seeing how long it will last... still going. The short answer is, it's an addiction, and now you've got it....
    Two hands lol. I have two as well though I think I'll need the other one to steady my gun hand. I'm impressed with the longevity of these welders, hopefully this 210MVP lasts at least 10 years or so.

    Sounds like my 210MVP deal is nothing compared to the deals you've had, $40 for a welder is awesome. Yep sounds like I'm getting addicted to welders and I haven't laid my first bead yet lol. I was also addicted to chainsaws for a while but got over that.

    I saw some YouTube videos on cheap plasma cutters and now I want one although my grinder with a cut-off wheel would probably suffice for all my needs. Do you find yourself using the plasma cutter more than a grinder with cut-off wheel now?

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    Don’t set your heart on a plasma cutter right away. I bought one 10 years ago and it is the least used piece of equipment in my shop. Angle grinders (multiple) and a 4x6 band saw are much more valuable and certainly cheaper. Plasma requires a big compressor.

    Also a deep cut portable bandsaw mounted vertical is very good. Even a good saber saw with bimetal blades is great for cutting steel.

    Remember you need personal protection equipment, clamps, squares, markers, welpers, gloves, etc. Not knowing your budget, I suggest buying what you need when you have a need for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wb4rt View Post
    Don’t set your heart on a plasma cutter right away. I bought one 10 years ago and it is the least used piece of equipment in my shop. Angle grinders (multiple) and a 4x6 band saw are much more valuable and certainly cheaper. Plasma requires a big compressor.

    Also a deep cut portable bandsaw mounted vertical is very good. Even a good saber saw with bimetal blades is great for cutting steel.

    Remember you need personal protection equipment, clamps, squares, markers, welpers, gloves, etc. Not knowing your budget, I suggest buying what you need when you have a need for it.
    Hmm, at least two angle grinders would be nice to have I think. Then I don't have to keep changing wheels. I may look into getting another one, maybe a Milwaukee M12 battery powered model since I already have a few of their tools. I wasn't aware plasma cutters need compressors. Saw some YouTube videos where they just plugged the machines into an outlet.

    I have my PPE en route (helmet, welding jacket, welding cap, safety glasses, etc.). Clamps are on the way as well. Had to look up welpers, never heard of that then see it's welding pliers lol. Good name for them. I have a pair coming along with the other stuff. I may have bought too much crap already.

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    You'll always need one more clamp, no matter how may you have.....
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    Yes, you got a good deal, that is an awesome machine for that price. No you didn't screw up, you did pay full retail for the bottle though. It's likely you have a new friend at Tractor supply. On a future visit he/she might have other deals on returns or discontinued items. Having a good relationship with a local supplier is good to have, even if they are a big box store. You should also find a local welding supply store too. As you advance in your skills, they will be able to supply different gases, and you can rent bottles by the month for special projects. I have a local place that puts all their stuff out on display, and every time I pick up a couple of bottles, and some welding rod, I almost always buy some new widget, or marker, or something that I wouldn't have bought by just seeing it online. Often I like to pick something up and look at it before I buy it. I also don't mind paying a few dollars more for welding rods, and welding wire, because I can open up the package to make sure its not all broken up from shipping.
    I wouldn't recommend you purchase a plasma cutter just yet. You should master using the 4-1/2" grinder first, and then depending on what you plan to work on, buy a tool to cut that. For example , if your going to build a lot of machine frames, trailers, or use lots of pipe, channel, tubing, then a horizontal band saw would be a good choice. If you going to do a lot of auto restoration, and body work, then a jig saw, or a battery powered sheet metal shear would be good choices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roert42 View Post
    You'll always need one more clamp, no matter how may you have.....
    This is true !

    I think it was Jody Collier who said "I have too many clamps" ....."no welder ever said"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ambull01 View Post
    Do you find yourself using the plasma cutter more than a grinder with cut-off wheel now?
    Not really... I'll have to agree with WB4RT on that one. There are places where it's very handy but more for a more precise cut than I can get with the O/A torch rather than the other methods. Most of my cutting is done with the big bandsaw, followed by cut-off discs, then plasma and O/A are pretty much a tossup depending on the situation. Cheap plasma's like mine require an external air compressor with a clean, dry air supply (the chintzy little filter systems they come with don't cut it) but I already had a 5HP 80 gallon IR upright so that's not an issue for me. Some of the more expensive units come with their own air supply which may not be a bad idea if you don't have clean, dry compressed air readily available. Don't get hung up on acquiring a lot of tooling, just get what you need to get the job done. I fixed things here for over 30 yrs with that little Forney, some grinders and a hacksaw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by albrightree View Post
    Yes, you got a good deal, that is an awesome machine for that price. No you didn't screw up, you did pay full retail for the bottle though. It's likely you have a new friend at Tractor supply. On a future visit he/she might have other deals on returns or discontinued items. Having a good relationship with a local supplier is good to have, even if they are a big box store. You should also find a local welding supply store too. As you advance in your skills, they will be able to supply different gases, and you can rent bottles by the month for special projects. I have a local place that puts all their stuff out on display, and every time I pick up a couple of bottles, and some welding rod, I almost always buy some new widget, or marker, or something that I wouldn't have bought by just seeing it online. Often I like to pick something up and look at it before I buy it. I also don't mind paying a few dollars more for welding rods, and welding wire, because I can open up the package to make sure its not all broken up from shipping.
    I wouldn't recommend you purchase a plasma cutter just yet. You should master using the 4-1/2" grinder first, and then depending on what you plan to work on, buy a tool to cut that. For example , if your going to build a lot of machine frames, trailers, or use lots of pipe, channel, tubing, then a horizontal band saw would be a good choice. If you going to do a lot of auto restoration, and body work, then a jig saw, or a battery powered sheet metal shear would be good choices.

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    The Tractor Supply folks let me return the bottle for a full refund, thank god lol. Bought a 80cu. ft. bottle from Arc3 for $300 so not too bad I guess, saved me $150. I could have bought the same size bottle from a smaller, local shop for $250 but traffic in northern VA is insane during the workweek so I opted to drive to the closer store. Probably should have just bit the bullet and drove to the smaller store though. Could have started to develop a relationship with the smaller welding store and, eventually, asked if I could help out for free in the shop lol. I think it would be awesome if I could, at the very least, just watch experienced welders that weld for a living. I could probably pick up a lot of tips and tricks that way.

    I almost bought a few other things from the Arc3 place. They had some really cool welding magnets that I guess reverses the magnetism or what it's called so you can remove them easily. They also had some awesome looking clamps but I probably don't need that kind of stuff yet.

    Good point in holding off on purchasing things that are specific to a type of welding/material since I have no idea what I'll enjoy the most. Most likely it's not going to be auto resto stuff though lol.

    Best part of getting this 210MVP is my brother laughing at me for buying it for $300 with a supposedly defective gun and missing items. There was nothing really wrong with the gun and the missing items are fairly cheap to replace. He's probably just pissed I was able to get the Hobart for less than his crappy Harbor Freight welder, such a hater.


    Quote Originally Posted by whtbaron View Post
    Not really... I'll have to agree with WB4RT on that one. There are places where it's very handy but more for a more precise cut than I can get with the O/A torch rather than the other methods. Most of my cutting is done with the big bandsaw, followed by cut-off discs, then plasma and O/A are pretty much a tossup depending on the situation. Cheap plasma's like mine require an external air compressor with a clean, dry air supply (the chintzy little filter systems they come with don't cut it) but I already had a 5HP 80 gallon IR upright so that's not an issue for me. Some of the more expensive units come with their own air supply which may not be a bad idea if you don't have clean, dry compressed air readily available. Don't get hung up on acquiring a lot of tooling, just get what you need to get the job done. I fixed things here for over 30 yrs with that little Forney, some grinders and a hacksaw.
    Okay, I'll stick with cut-off discs on the grinder for now. A bandsaw sounds tempting but I'll wait on that, already spending a lot of money on my new hobby.

    Did you all build your own welding table or purchase one? I think that's about all I'll get for now, besides a couple of fire extinguishers so I don't burn my garage and house down. I found this welding table on Harbor Freight:
    https://www.harborfreight.com/adjust...ble-61369.html

    It's kind of small but I can get another one (or more) later and extend it. I have one of those huge rolling tool boxes but the surface is wood. Guess I could try and find a metal top to put on it though.

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    The portable table from HF is fine.

    I have one and also a 3x6 welding table I made.

    The HF table will be fine for learning/getting started and will be handy to keep iffin' you build a more robust table later.

    I've set up a 4x4 piece of plywood on saw horses too. Yes it will get burn marks and is not a proper welding table but if I can get the piece off the floor I'm ahead of the game and my back thanks me.
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    Ambull01,

    For a quick n dirty welding table, make your own. I have a wooden workbench about 2'x4' made out of 4x4's and 2x4's...plenty sturdy. I put a piece of 1/4" x 2 1/2' x 4' plate on it, and use it for small stuff. It's plenty steady and a 4' level laid across it shows it to remain a flat surface on the workbench; no bending anywhere (it doesn't have to be perfectly level, just FLAT). I know steel prices are out of sight now, but see if you can get a piece of 1/4" or 3/8" thick steel plate about 2' x 3' or 2' x 4' and slap that on a sturdy work bench. That size will work for just about anything you will be making. I've been using mine for about 15 years now.

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    I have a couple wooden work bench that double as welding tables. You loose the ability to put your ground clamp on the table and you also cant tack weld the piece to the table to help keep everything in place. The big but is that wood is cheaper and lighter if I need to move it around, also doesn't get hot and warp like a thinner plate would. Though it has caught on fire a couple times.

    I would wait on the steel table unless you can get a screaming deal on a big hunk of 3/4" plate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Broccoli1 View Post
    The portable table from HF is fine.

    I have one and also a 3x6 welding table I made.

    The HF table will be fine for learning/getting started and will be handy to keep iffin' you build a more robust table later.

    I've set up a 4x4 piece of plywood on saw horses too. Yes it will get burn marks and is not a proper welding table but if I can get the piece off the floor I'm ahead of the game and my back thanks me.
    Oh hell yeah, didn't even think about saw horses. I don't have room for one of those big, nice welding tables right now anyway. I still have the engine I pulled from my old Cadillac taking space in my garage and my wife insists on parking her car in there. Thanks for that saw horse idea. Just had an idea, I could take the wooden table top off of my tool box and use it that way as well. I think that should work. I have this thing in my garage:

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    Table top is removable but I guess I'm not going to be able to ground it without attaching to the work piece.


    Quote Originally Posted by shortfuse View Post
    Ambull01,

    For a quick n dirty welding table, make your own. I have a wooden workbench about 2'x4' made out of 4x4's and 2x4's...plenty sturdy. I put a piece of 1/4" x 2 1/2' x 4' plate on it, and use it for small stuff. It's plenty steady and a 4' level laid across it shows it to remain a flat surface on the workbench; no bending anywhere (it doesn't have to be perfectly level, just FLAT). I know steel prices are out of sight now, but see if you can get a piece of 1/4" or 3/8" thick steel plate about 2' x 3' or 2' x 4' and slap that on a sturdy work bench. That size will work for just about anything you will be making. I've been using mine for about 15 years now.
    Yeah that's another good idea. I could put some wheels on it or something too and make it semi-portable. I've heard about the steel price increases a lot lately, seems like I've decided to try welding at the wrong time lol. I was hoping to get a lot of scrap metal for cheap/free. Have to keep my eyes open for it and maybe start going to yard/garage sales.

    Quote Originally Posted by Roert42 View Post
    I have a couple wooden work bench that double as welding tables. You loose the ability to put your ground clamp on the table and you also cant tack weld the piece to the table to help keep everything in place. The big but is that wood is cheaper and lighter if I need to move it around, also doesn't get hot and warp like a thinner plate would. Though it has caught on fire a couple times.

    I would wait on the steel table unless you can get a screaming deal on a big hunk of 3/4" plate.
    Yep just looked at steel welding tables online, I'm not buying one of those things lol. They are expensive as hell! Especially for someone like me that doesn't know how to weld yet.

    Thanks for the suggestions guys. Going to think about the saw horse or wooden table idea.

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    You can even throw down a piece of 16g sheet metal on top of the piece of wood.

    Get it cut a little large to allow for a small overhang and then you'll have a place for the work/ground clamp
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ambull01 View Post

    Did you all build your own welding table or purchase one? .
    I built mine, but it's about 700 lbs of overkill more than you need right now. Lots of good ideas in the welding table thread though.... https://weldingweb.com/vbb/threads/3...-thread/page28

    Unless you are planning a lot of really large projects, a much smaller table will look after a lot of welding...I find I use the vises more than fixtures, but that's probably because I'm doing more repair work than fabrication.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Broccoli1 View Post
    You can even throw down a piece of 16g sheet metal on top of the piece of wood.

    Get it cut a little large to allow for a small overhang and then you'll have a place for the work/ground clamp
    Now that's ingenious, why didn't I think of that? lol. I could probably screw the 16g sheet metal to the plywood too and have a poor man's welding table.


    Quote Originally Posted by whtbaron View Post
    I built mine, but it's about 700 lbs of overkill more than you need right now. Lots of good ideas in the welding table thread though.... https://weldingweb.com/vbb/threads/3...-thread/page28

    Unless you are planning a lot of really large projects, a much smaller table will look after a lot of welding...I find I use the vises more than fixtures, but that's probably because I'm doing more repair work than fabrication.
    **** didn't realize there's a welding table thread. Haven't really explored this site a whole lot since I don't know a thing about welding so figured most topics would be over my head.

    Realized a few hours ago I'm putting the cart before the horse a bit by not figuring out where I'm going to get steel from to practice/build stuff before thinking about a table. I think I know most of the places that's usually recommended (i.e. Craigslist, FB marketplace although I don't have a FB account anymore, yard sales, fabrication places, etc.). I was thinking about driving to the county's recycling/landfill place and asking as nice as I can if they would allow me to take some of the scrap metal. They'll probably say no due to some kind of regulation/insurance liability but figured there's no harm in trying. I'll have to educate myself on local steel prices to see whether I'm getting a good deal from Craigslist/FB/etc.

    Anyone ever buy steel coupons from Amazon just to practice? Prices don't seem too bad. Here's just one listing:

    Welding Coupons - 11 Gauge Mild Steel - 2 by 4 Inch (2"X4") - Multipacks - Made in USA - Weld Practice and Traihttps://www.amazon.com/Welding-Coupons-Multipacks-Practice-Training/dp/B08NWDSHGK/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=32S485CR3ZSD3&dchild=1&keywor ds=metal%2Bcoupons%2Bwelding&qid=1634353312&sr=8-2-spons&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEySjc2OFZQOFh MVTgyJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUExMDAxOTgzMlhGSUw4TDg4UUg5U SZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMTgyNjY5UzROTjVSTldNSFBCJnd pZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0J mRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ&th=1ning for MIG, TIG, Stick, Arc, Gas and Brazing (12 Pack) - - Amazon.com

    I could cut the coupons to smaller pieces and have more to practice with too. I bought two sheets of 16 gauge from Tractor Supply to practice on but don't want to do that regularly.

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    Steel supplier, local shop, scrap from wherever.
    That Amazon stuff is pricey. IMHO
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    They have a kit of what looks like a half dozen thin plates and a couple of thicker ones for $7.50. Still a bit pricey. But they also have some very good books at reasonable prices.
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    shop around, unfortunately steel is expensive EVERYWHERE right now.

    Ask about "rems (remnants), cutoffs, or drops" at your local steel supplier - these are the pieces left over when customers order custom lengths and are the cheapest option, sold by the pound. My steel supplier has a pretty good selection of drops but YMMV.

    Furniture (broken or trashed) can usually have some usable metal for small projects - if the metal is factory welded you should have no problem welding it at home. Use a magnet to make sure it's steel and not aluminum (if you can't tell).

    First thing I'd build is a hand truck/dolly style welding cart for the welder and tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ambull01 View Post
    I still have the engine I pulled from my old Cadillac taking space in my garage an
    what yr/model cad u got ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meltedmetal View Post
    Steel supplier, local shop, scrap from wherever.
    That Amazon stuff is pricey. IMHO
    Resource:https://www.jflf.org/
    They have a kit of what looks like a half dozen thin plates and a couple of thicker ones for $7.50. Still a bit pricey. But they also have some very good books at reasonable prices.
    Thanks for that link. The books look good, I think I'll order some to go along with this textbook. Just read about DCEN, DCEP, AC, CV, RAV, CC, etc. There's A LOT more to this welding stuff than I thought lol. I'm going to order a three or four of those coupons from that site too. I want to try and practice a bit everyday.

    Quote Originally Posted by SlowBlues View Post
    shop around, unfortunately steel is expensive EVERYWHERE right now.

    Ask about "rems (remnants), cutoffs, or drops" at your local steel supplier - these are the pieces left over when customers order custom lengths and are the cheapest option, sold by the pound. My steel supplier has a pretty good selection of drops but YMMV.

    Furniture (broken or trashed) can usually have some usable metal for small projects - if the metal is factory welded you should have no problem welding it at home. Use a magnet to make sure it's steel and not aluminum (if you can't tell).

    First thing I'd build is a hand truck/dolly style welding cart for the welder and tank.
    Yeah I'm searching online and making a list of all the welding shops, steel suppliers, recycling business, etc. Good idea about the magnet lol. I was thinking I should probably do that since my knowledge of metal is basically zero. I looked at some steel prices online and saw cold rolled, hot rolled, and other terms. I have no idea what that means so I need to educate myself on that too before I try to buy some steel. I don't want to walk into a steel supplier business and look like a totally ignorant customer.

    I see a few of those 55 gallon metal barrels on Craigslist. I was wondering if I could but a few of them, cut them up either with a cut-off blade or a jigsaw. Will probably be a ton of work though cutting it, hammering it flat, removing paint/rust, etc.

    I already bought a welding cart from Harbor Freight. I know I should have tried to build one but the price was pretty reasonable. 350 lb. Capacity Welding Cart (harborfreight.com)
    $120 and 350lb capacity. This Hobart 210 is kind of heavy and bulky, wanted something quick so I could move it around.

    Quote Originally Posted by 123weld View Post
    what yr/model cad u got ?
    It was a '04 Cadillac CTS-V. Wish it was a '08 or newer with the supercharged engines lol. The '04 CTS-V had the LS6 from the Corvette Z06. Didn't drive the car for over 2 years, just started it up every so often. Wife and I had five cars parked in the driveway/on our circle (the CTS-V, my SUV, my truck, her SUV, and her work car). Our house was starting to look like a used car lot so she was bugging me for over a year to get rid of the Cadi.

    I'm hoping I can sell the motor for 3 - $4k. It will give me more pocket money to spend on this welding hobby/welding gear accumulation.
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    If you are going to the route of laying a steel sheet or plate on a table or frame, (wood, OSB, sq. tube, etc.) then you need some that will not flex. You need to keep the top FLAT for working on anything larger than really small items. 16 ga. sheet is only about 6/100" thick (0.059"), so it will flex. You need to use plate, at least 1/4" up to 3/8" or 1/2"...but those last two are gonna be heavy!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ambull01 View Post
    Th

    It was a '04 Cadillac CTS-V. Wish it was a '08 or newer with the supercharged engines lol. The '04 CTS-V had the LS6 from the Corvette Z06. Didn't drive the car for over 2 years, just started it up every so often. Wife and I had five cars parked in the driveway/on our circle (the CTS-V, my SUV, my truck, her SUV, and her work car). Our house was starting to look like a used car lot so she was bugging me for over a year to get rid of the Cadi.

    I'm hoping I can sell the motor for 3 - $4k. It will give me more pocket money to spend on this welding hobby/welding gear accumulation.
    not what i envisioned when u said "old cadidllac" but thats actually a bad *** car. first and only time i ridden in one, was when a german baptist picked us up to go to of all places, "church". felt a lil awkward gettin outa of black tinted window stick shift cadillac, in the church parking lot w/ his wife in a dress down to her ankles and a basket on her head.
    I'd like to have one, but i dont buy anything i cant fix/work on myself. i think of them as a high perf seville. i had a seville, a coupe de ville, and went to a concert in eaerly 90's in a white 67 cadillac hearse when aroesmith made a comeback w/ "love in an elevator tour. im not much of a concert/crowd goer though, it just sorta happened that way. probabaly ur wife knows, she goes any longer than 24hrs of parking her car in garage, u'll take over the space w/ equpment/projects. thats the way i am, except my place looks more like a junkyard, than a used car parking lot
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    Quote Originally Posted by shortfuse View Post
    If you are going to the route of laying a steel sheet or plate on a table or frame, (wood, OSB, sq. tube, etc.) then you need some that will not flex. You need to keep the top FLAT for working on anything larger than really small items. 16 ga. sheet is only about 6/100" thick (0.059"), so it will flex. You need to use plate, at least 1/4" up to 3/8" or 1/2"...but those last two are gonna be heavy!!
    Yep, so maybe the 1/4" plate lol. Also, you're going to laugh but I was thinking about using my old stand up desk contraption. Lay a plate that's a little larger for the weld clamp on it and maybe screw it into the table top. Was thinking that could work. I could just put the standing desk thing on my toolbox top and it will be height adjustable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 123weld View Post
    not what i envisioned when u said "old cadidllac" but thats actually a bad *** car. first and only time i ridden in one, was when a german baptist picked us up to go to of all places, "church". felt a lil awkward gettin outa of black tinted window stick shift cadillac, in the church parking lot w/ his wife in a dress down to her ankles and a basket on her head.
    I'd like to have one, but i dont buy anything i cant fix/work on myself. i think of them as a high perf seville. i had a seville, a coupe de ville, and went to a concert in eaerly 90's in a white 67 cadillac hearse when aroesmith made a comeback w/ "love in an elevator tour. im not much of a concert/crowd goer though, it just sorta happened that way. probabaly ur wife knows, she goes any longer than 24hrs of parking her car in garage, u'll take over the space w/ equpment/projects. thats the way i am, except my place looks more like a junkyard, than a used car parking lot
    Yeah it was a pretty sweet car, especially the sound. Had a bit of a rumble, like an old school muscle car. It was a pain to drive in rush hour traffic though. The clutch was pretty heavy so my left leg would start to shake after a while lol. I have one side of the garage all filled with my crap already.

    I tested out the welder with some .030" flux, still waiting on the gas regulator. I definitely need the MIG class, I'm not a natural at all lol.
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    Tried to butt weld that 16 gauge sheet metal at first but I went through it real quick so tried to do tack welds spaced out. I have no idea what I'm doing. Then tried to do some longer welds on thicker pieces of metal that I cut off from the standing desk (had to cut out some metal to allow the use of clamps). Some long pieces of wire was breaking off. Not sure if I was letting the wire get too long, my settings or off, etc. On the longer welds the "bacon frying" sound was a bit sporadic. I forgot to change the settings to account for the slightly thicker metal so hopefully that's it.
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    Got the cart carrying all my crap. Hopefully it doesn't fall apart lol. Don't really trust Harbor Freight stuff yet. Next step is to have my electrician install a 240V 50 amp plug and a 115V 20 amp plug in the garage. Then I'll be all set, I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ambull01 View Post
    Yep, so maybe the 1/4" plate lol. Also, you're going to laugh but I was thinking about using my old stand up desk contraption. Lay a plate that's a little larger for the weld clamp on it and maybe screw it into the table top. Was thinking that could work. I could just put the standing desk thing on my toolbox top and it will be height adjustable.
    That table might work, depending on how stable it is. As for the cover plate, 1/4" plate weighs 10.2 lb. per sq. ft., so you can figure out how much a cover plate would weigh.

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