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    fence price

    I have a 72í fence to finish on a already started project that has all da post in and framing. I have to redo the posts beacuse they arenít in the ground and put in all the vertical tubing and also there will be 2 sliding gates and to 4í wide swing gates. So what sounds reasonable to charge since iím new in the business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tru-Stud-Welding View Post
    I have a 72’ fence to finish on a already started project that has all da post in and framing. I have to redo the posts beacuse they aren’t in the ground and put in all the vertical tubing and also there will be 2 sliding gates and to 4’ wide swing gates. So what sounds reasonable to charge since i’m new in the business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John T View Post
    $10,000.00
    $10,155.00 otherwise the customer will think you're just throwing out numbers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lis2323 View Post
    $10,155.00 otherwise the customer will think you're just throwing out numbers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by scsmith42 View Post
    $10,155.89
    Much better. Thank you


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    Re: fence price

    Somebody started it, did not finish it, now you remove what was started? Does not sound like "finish"ing a job. Not sure what I would charge from the description, however don't tread lightly on pricing. Seems like you should be checking locally fir pricing on labor on fence building. Good luck

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    Re: fence price

    Itís a joke.

    Itís equivalent to these guys to come onto the board and say Iím thinking of starting a welding business

    What sort of machine should I buy?

    Get the F out of here.

    Anyone with common sense would not step into a business without knowing what to charge.

    Especially getting involved with a job without quoting a price and then go online and ask what he should charge

    Itís retarded.

    Not to mention digging holes by hand with a shovel.

    So much wrong with this I donít know where to start.

    A smart man will take a job for six or seven months for a fabricator or a fence company and learn the ins and outs.

    How to do things how to price jobs etc. etc.

    Whatever.

    Turkeys almost done.

    Iím out of here.
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    Re: fence price

    You never know, i have seen as many start out in reverse as running in foreward.

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    John is our good will ambassador. I'm on an old car forum and a guy came in that had just bought a car. Wanted me to tell him what it was. Dude!
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    and the actual retail price is $10,000 for a difference of zero dollars, come on down John T.... Bob Barker

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    Re: fence price

    I got started in the fencing business when I couldn't find anyone who would build what I wanted - a wood fence with square steel posts, set in concrete, with steel-framed gates and remote openers. I ended up renting a two-man power auger and doing it all myself. I was already building gate frames to replace wood ones, which typically fail in 2-3 years. Did my own, learned what I needed to in that process, and started doing them for others who admired my work and wanted some.

    Step 0 - Get your contractor's license. Without it, you WILL get screwed. If you won't/can't get a license. don't do a contract - do time and materials ONLY. "I charge $X/hour, and the customer supplies all the materials. My time starts when I arrive, ends when you pay me, and has a 6 hour minimum, unless agreed on in advance."
    Step 1 - draw up plans to determine materials quantities. Add 50% for waste and price increases.
    Step 2 - estimate labor, then triple it. Everything that can go wrong, will.
    Step 3 - meet with the client, and be prepared to take your drawings, materials list, and estimate with you WHEN YOU WALK AWAY.

    Realize you are cleaning up someone else's mess on this job, so you'll probably regret getting involved with this customer.
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    Re: fence price

    It's tough to go cost plus. Most people won't hire you. They prefer a flat bid.

    I had a guy cutting Cedars for me that was by the hour. He screwed me big time, and I still have a ton of trees that have to be cut.

    I had issues with a grapple. Made one, but it didn't work as planned, redesigned it, and finally got out on the line with the dood. Cut more trees in about 4 hours, than he did in a f'n week. Then the azzhole just up and quits because when I worked with him, the pace was too fast. Contractors are either good, or suck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teachu2 View Post
    I got started in the fencing business when I couldn't find anyone who would build what I wanted - a wood fence with square steel posts, set in concrete, with steel-framed gates and remote openers. I ended up renting a two-man power auger and doing it all myself. I was already building gate frames to replace wood ones, which typically fail in 2-3 years. Did my own, learned what I needed to in that process, and started doing them for others who admired my work and wanted some.

    Step 0 - Get your contractor's license. Without it, you WILL get screwed. If you won't/can't get a license. don't do a contract - do time and materials ONLY. "I charge $X/hour, and the customer supplies all the materials. My time starts when I arrive, ends when you pay me, and has a 6 hour minimum, unless agreed on in advance."
    Step 1 - draw up plans to determine materials quantities. Add 50% for waste and price increases.
    Step 2 - estimate labor, then triple it. Everything that can go wrong, will.
    Step 3 - meet with the client, and be prepared to take your drawings, materials list, and estimate with you WHEN YOU WALK AWAY.

    Realize you are cleaning up someone else's mess on this job, so you'll probably regret getting involved with this customer.
    Add 50 percent of what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tapwelder View Post
    Add 50 percent of what?
    Of your calculated materials.
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    Re: fence price

    It sounds you know how long took.
    How many hours did take and the number of posts installed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tru-Stud-Welding View Post
    I have a 72í fence to finish on a already started project that has all da post in and framing. I have to redo the posts beacuse they arenít in the ground and put in all the vertical tubing and also there will be 2 sliding gates and to 4í wide swing gates. So what sounds reasonable to charge since iím new in the business.

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    Understood - but if you quote a complete price without a contractor's license, you have no recourse if you don't get paid - at least here in California.
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    I agree
    At point you just a employe and do not sign or give a contract.

    Dave

    Quote Originally Posted by Teachu2 View Post
    Understood - but if you quote a complete price without a contractor's license, you have no recourse if you don't get paid - at least here in California.

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    I'm in California as well.

    I never pay by the hour. That person then becomes an employee and opens up another can of worms not in your favor either.
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    What can worms are you taking about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broccoli1 View Post
    I'm in California as well.

    I never pay by the hour. That person then becomes an employee and opens up another can of worms not in your favor either.

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    I'd find out why the job was left unfinished in the first place....
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    Quote Originally Posted by smithdoor View Post
    What can worms are you taking about?

    Dave
    In California:

    You hire someone by the hour/day laborer they are technically now YOUR employee. They are NOT independent contractors/labor.

    Employees have rights and are very well protected in California, rightly so as a lot of employers are pretty crappy. But also the gubment wants to make sure taxes are collected.

    Anyhoo... the worker/employee gets injured while working for you... you are on the hook if they want to file workers comp claim. You can't claim that they are independent contractors. They are considered employees by the state.


    Pay dispute ? They can file a claim with the EDD (Employment Development Department) and say... they, as an employee, were not paid timely or correctly.

    All of the problems/can of worms fall in to your lap.

    It has become worse with the passage of AB-5 and the rules for how workers are classified.

    ****e- you control when they start or stop- boom, employee.

    It gets dizzying for sure.
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    Re: fence price

    As a retired contractor I found this same type person will come up ways not pay.

    Either way you will find people will not pay.
    If do not have license and just starting about the only thing you can do is be a employee if working on buildings and hope best out come. Most will pay for your work.
    California does permit a handyman up to $500.00 most welders I have know most handyman and welders would do just labor and owner pay for material up to $500.00 it is safer. But again they where working to get a license too.

    But if you working on equipment a contractor works great. No license need most cities and a few countries will require a business license in California.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broccoli1 View Post
    In California:

    You hire someone by the hour/day laborer they are technically now YOUR employee. They are NOT independent contractors/labor.

    Employees have rights and are very well protected in California, rightly so as a lot of employers are pretty crappy. But also the gubment wants to make sure taxes are collected.

    Anyhoo... the worker/employee gets injured while working for you... you are on the hook if they want to file workers comp claim. You can't claim that they are independent contractors. They are considered employees by the state.


    Pay dispute ? They can file a claim with the EDD (Employment Development Department) and say... they, as an employee, were not paid timely or correctly.

    All of the problems/can of worms fall in to your lap.

    It has become worse with the passage of AB-5 and the rules for how workers are classified.

    ****e- you control when they start or stop- boom, employee.

    It gets dizzying for sure.

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