When the Cat's Away........

[12V71]

Dayum, where would we be without your you tube genius? In the second vid you posted that was exactly what I put up in my post. And the board has nothing to do with it.
As the former/current owner of far more Kohler powered welders than you have, I've been through the solenoid issues (mostly no start),but have never had one that kept the engine running after the switch was turned off.
But hey... I know you'll come back with the usual snarky, "You know it all" reply. No matter how little real world experience you have.

[farmersammm]

For people unfamiliar with how the GXT runs, go to 6:45 in the video. The run is loud, and the shutoff is at fast idle. Matter of fact........the high idle solenoid activates when you shut them down. This tells you that the engine is getting spark during the shutdown cycle(and it will continue running at this speed if the fuel shutoff solenoid malfunctions). I know damn well when I get mine lined out, someone's gonna say it isn't running right. This is how they run(shrug), and the main reason I hate running it all day long.

The shutdown cycle is at 11:30 idjuts

[farmersammm]

Dayum, where would we be without your you tube genius? In the second vid you posted that was exactly what I put up in my post. And the board has nothing to do with it.
As the former/current owner of far more Kohler powered welders than you have, I've been through the solenoid issues (mostly no start),but have never had one that kept the engine running after the switch was turned off.
But hey... I know you'll come back with the usual snarky, "You know it all" reply. No matter how little real world experience you have.

You heard what you wanted to hear on the second video. The fuel is not metered, nor fuel level in bowl maintained, by the shutoff solenoid. The shutoff valve shuts the fuel off, and the control board keeps the engine running until the cycle is complete.

[farmersammm]

Real world I've been running that welder for 14 years Get a grip What is it with you guys???

[farmersammm]

You guys really don't know how ridiculous you sound.

[farmersammm]

So.....................like we got 2 to 1 on this. Cwby tells ya the same exact same thing about the motor running after the switch is turned off, AND HE'S IN AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT STATE Which I suppose is part of The Real World I guess

So I can get this straight..........................Texas, and Oklahoma, are in The Real World. I guess the PNW ain't....................this confirms my feeling about the left coast.

[12V71]

So.....................like we got 2 to 1 on this. Cwby tells ya the same exact same thing about the motor running after the switch is turned off, AND HE'S IN AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT STATE Which I suppose is part of The Real World I guess

So I can get this straight..........................Texas, and Oklahoma, are in The Real World. I guess the PNW ain't....................this confirms my feeling about the left coast.

Confirms my feelings about Okies. Your yard proves it.

[farmersammm]

No matter what my yard looks like, the Ranger GXT runs like it runs(shrug). It's the way they're made(shrug).

But being the proud owner of all those Kohler powered machines, I guess ya know that already Real world

[John T]

[jpump5]

I thought fuel shut off solenoid was to keep fuel from leaking
past carburetor float valve when engine isn’t running on engines
where fuel level in tank can be higher than carb
This article claims solenoid is to prevent
backfiring.
https://www.hunker.com/12347545/how-...-fuel-solenoid

[farmersammm]

I thought fuel shut off solenoid was to keep fuel from leaking
past carburetor float valve when engine isn’t running on engines
where fuel level in tank can be higher than carb
This article claims solenoid is to prevent
backfiring.
https://www.hunker.com/12347545/how-...-fuel-solenoid

Read post #100 on this thread. It clarifies the function of the shutoff solenoid. I can talk myself blue in the face, but I figured the brain trust would find a video more instructive

The only thing that prevents fuel from leaking past the float needle seat is the needle, and seat...............or an inline fuel line valve. The fuel shutoff solenoid prevents gas from entering the carburetor jet. The carb jet is only a metering orifice that operates when atmospheric pressure forces atomized gasoline into the cylinders.

I had no idea what the things were for, until the welder started developing problems about 4-5yrs ago. The only other 2 cylinder OHV engine(Briggs & Stratton) we have, is on the riding mower, and it's never failed................although an o-ring in the carb failed, and filled the motor with gas while it was parked.

[farmersammm]

It's really pretty cool stuff.

The carb will work whether the motor has a spark, or not. Hell, you could force a stream of air through the carb when it's off the engine, and it will work. It just meters gas/air ratio, and puts it into the air stream. Air stream atomizes it,, and creates a gas/air fog. Which can go through an engine, even with ignition turned off, as the engine spins down.

Did you ever, when you were a kid, turn the ignition off in your pickup.......let it coast for a bit, then turn the ignition back on. KABOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cwby]

Edit after coffee On his the solenoid was stuck open & the engine would not die until the spark plug wire was pulled. He fixed it by changing out the solenoid. There may have been another issue that caused it, but that worked so he went no further.

Sure was fun working with him when he went to kill the welder. You never knew if he was gonna find that pin hole in the rubber pliers handle or not.

[John T]

Did you ever, when you were a kid, turn the ignition off in your pickup.......let it coast for a bit, then turn the ignition back on. KABOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ALL THE TIME !

Blew up many a muffler….

It was great when you were on a first date with a new girl….

Especially going underneath a bridge

Get going real good in about third gear… turn off the ignition

Pump the gas a couple times

Wait a couple seconds and turn the key back on.

BANG!

I got slapped in the head more than once.

[whtbaron]

I preferred to keep my explosive maneuvers in the back seat... I got slapped on the butt more than once.

I've had a couple Kohler engines around.... garden tractors and grain augers. I have to admit I got a lot of hours out of them, but I ever liked them.

[12345678910]

Mice are a constant battle although I seem to be able to keep the rats under control. Having food flavoured wiring won't help. My fuel truck sat in the shed most of last summer in between spraying and swathing. When I went to use it, the vents were plugged with interior fuzz, the defrost fan wouldn't turn and the entire air cleaner outside of the filter had been packed full of canola seed. It happens...

They now sell electrical tape infused with hot peppers.

But it means you have to tape every wire in the harness.

[Oldiron2]

They now sell electrical tape infused with hot peppers.

But it means you have to tape every wire in the harness.

I hadn't heard about the first point. As for protecting loose wires or looms, I've thought that mixing a concentrated solution of Denatonium benzoate with liquid latex and spraying that over wires, insulating fiberglass or similar materials (such as under auto hoods) might be a good rat deterrent. Moth balls and other similar volatile compounds have some effectiveness, but dissipate too quickly under most conditions; they do work in tight enclosures. Haven't had enough problem to convince me it's time to do such tests.

[John T]

I wonder if you have to wear rubber gloves to use it.

[Willie B]

ALL THE TIME !

Blew up many a muffler….

It was great when you were on a first date with a new girl….

Especially going underneath a bridge

Get going real good in about third gear… turn off the ignition

Pump the gas a couple times

Wait a couple seconds and turn the key back on.

BANG!

I got slapped in the head more than once.

You've had a date with a girl?!!

[John T]

You've had a date with a girl?!!

I'll have you know I was quite the cocksman back in the day.

[12V71]

ALL THE TIME !

Blew up many a muffler….

It was great when you were on a first date with a new girl….

Especially going underneath a bridge

Get going real good in about third gear… turn off the ignition

Pump the gas a couple times

Wait a couple seconds and turn the key back on.

BANG!

I got slapped in the head more than once.

I had a big Chevy C70 with a 427 that would backfire the right side exhaust on every shift if you drove it cold, when it was hot never a pop. I never found the leak/or whatever may have caused that. After blowing out a couple mufflers I went to the 40" weld in glasspacks, It never backfired again and actually had a good sound.

[whtbaron]

I had a big Chevy C70 with a 427 that would backfire the right side exhaust on every shift if you drove it cold, when it was hot never a pop. I never found the leak/or whatever may have caused that. After blowing out a couple mufflers I went to the 40" weld in glasspacks, It never backfired again and actually had a good sound.

Might have to put one of those on the old Dodge...

[kolot]

Sam, I think I remember when you got that machine, I have been away from the forum for a long time, life get's in the way you know. Get that thing back up and going.

[Willie B]

I had a big Chevy C70 with a 427 that would backfire the right side exhaust on every shift if you drove it cold, when it was hot never a pop. I never found the leak/or whatever may have caused that. After blowing out a couple mufflers I went to the 40" weld in glasspacks, It never backfired again and actually had a good sound.

Let me explain the backfire.

Gasoline runs as a liquid through those engines. Consumption is so rapid, much of it doesn't burn. This is especially true when you let your foot off the throttle & about a pint of gasoline is "in the chamber" & the throttle plate closes depriving it of air.

[whtbaron]

So you're saying he should put a Hemi in it...