Hopefully I'm not asking a stupid question. I'm new to the forum and new to welding. I was gifted a 300CF bottle of Argon. I had it filled and man that thing is heavy. I'm 57 years old and lifting heavy things like this without any sort of a handle to grab is not easy. It is like lifting a big slippery seal. Are there any type of straps that you can put around the cylinder with grab handles? Again, if this is a stupid question, I apologize in advance and hopefully I'm posting this on the correct part of the forum
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Hopefully I'm not asking a stupid question. I'm new to the forum and new to welding. I was gifted a 300CF bottle of Argon. I had it filled and man that thing is heavy. I'm 57 years old and lifting heavy things like this without any sort of a handle to grab is not easy. It is like lifting a big slippery seal. Are there any type of straps that you can put around the cylinder with grab handles? Again, if this is a stupid question, I apologize in advance and hopefully I'm posting this on the correct part of the forum
Dean Young
Where do you have to lift it? If moving it over a hard surface, tilt it slightly so it's sitting on one edge of the base but balanced and then spin it so it "walks" across the surface. Professionals can hit the bottle's bottom with their feet while cupping the hand on the top (which acts as a pivot point) to keep it rolling. After some practice, it gets easy. Might be better to practice with a smaller bottle, I admit.
Soft surfaces like dirt are another story.
Another trick to lift the bottle & set it on a rack. Squat down a little with your leg bent like you are setting down, break the bottle over your knee ( find balance point) & set the base on your rack, then stand it up.
Another trick to lift the bottle & set it on a rack. Squat down a little with your leg bent like you are setting down, break the bottle over your knee ( find balance point) & set the base on your rack, then stand it up.
^^^ this works for me and I'm not a big guy. Or young. Lol
Not really sure why you lift it? To a vehicle, or is your storage area high or some other reason. Anyway, a dolly (modded or new) might be a welding project.
Not really sure why you lift it? To a vehicle, or is your storage area high or some other reason. Anyway, a dolly (modded or new) might be a welding project.
80cu ft bottles bottles here but you get the “picture”
^^^ this works for me and I'm not a big guy. Or young. Lol
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The old blacksmith I worked for as a kid showed me that one. He was70 years old, about 5'6" & weighed about 130#. BUT he could grab two Oxy cylinders & roll them across the shop with seemingly no effort, then rock one over his knee & set it up on a 1' platform, stand it up & chain it down. Again with seemingly no effort.
This is exactly what I was looking for and thank you everyone else for all the great suggestions. As Dave/Smithdoor had suggested, down grading the size might be in my future
Just lifting it into the back of my old Expedition. I didn't realize how soft I have become from being a bio engineer and not lifting anything more than 75lbs. Again I was grateful in receiving this large argon tank for free, but down sizing may be in the early future. The embarrassing thing was when the guy who filled up my argon tank, he literally picked up the tank like it was made out of cardboard and put it in the back of my Expedition. He said after lifting 20 of those a day it becomes nothing. I made a mistake, the bottle that I have is a 330.
Purchase or lease varies by provider and sometimes by region. But you're right, having paperwork in hand is a good idea.
Back in the day i drove a delivery truck for a LWS. I got to where i could roll 330 cf bottles up to the truck deck (F350), stand above the bottle, grab the cylinder by the cap with two hands, and haul it up. Not sure if i could manage that today, 40 years on.
I have 1/2dz 300's, I "tip" them onto the tailgate of my F350, squat at the bottom of the tank with my fingers in the depression, and, with my legs, slide/push it up into the bed.
I have 1/2dz 300's, I "tip" them onto the tailgate of my F350, squat at the bottom of the tank with my fingers in the depression, and, with my legs, slide/push it up into the bed.
Just turned 68
Yup. It’s called leverage (and using your brain)
My dad wasnt a big guy but tipped, squatted and got his shoulder under 50 gallon drums of petroleum products to load our farm flat decks (albeit off low platforms)
If you own a pickup truck a liftgate is insanely handy and they're not just for one-tonners. My 2000 F150 (with Hellwig leaves, Timbren urethane boosters and coilover shocks but the leaves make the most difference) rocks a Tommy Gate I swapped a hard drive install for.
Liftgates are very easy to install via factory bracket kits or fab your own. Every serious pickup user who values their back should get one. They're life changing and easy to work on with plentiful parts.
I welded lifting eyes to mine so I could install it single-handed using an engine hoist.
While that winch looks like it could probably be useful and certainly affordable I’m pretty certain I would find it annoyingly awkward and time consuming.
I would most likely sustain a back injury tossing it in the dumpster.
I think great idea 💡
I also think it looks to light .
It like may lift 150 pounds 68kg but 500 pounds 227kg would be better and offset for loading.
Dave
Originally Posted by Lis2323
While that winch looks like it could probably be useful and certainly affordable I’m pretty certain I would find it annoyingly awkward and time consuming.
I would most likely sustain a back injury tossing it in the dumpster.
I will wait for video showing the operator madly cranking the winch with two hands while the 330 cf bottle falls off the platform and crushes his foot.
He should move his foot before the bottle hits his foot or change his day or maybe week or two.
Dave
Originally Posted by Lis2323
I will wait for video showing the operator madly cranking the winch with two hands while the 330 cf bottle falls off the platform and crushes his foot.
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Solderer
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Originally Posted by deanyoung
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Yup. It’s called leverage (and using your brain)
