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    Angry Newbe Needs Help with Fuel Problem on Lincoln Advantage 400 Perkins Engine

    Machine starts and runs for a second then goes to low idle then shuts down. IT will restart and do the same thing.
    I've changed Both filters and tried again with the same results.

    Any Ideas?

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    Re: Newbe Needs Help with Fuel Problem on Lincoln Advantage 400 Perkins Engine

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    Re: Newbe Needs Help with Fuel Problem on Lincoln Advantage 400 Perkins Engine

    2011 with 4400 hrs
    I tried that and it will not stay running.

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    Re: Newbe Needs Help with Fuel Problem on Lincoln Advantage 400 Perkins Engine

    What inj pump they use? First thing,,, right off, run,,,, buy a service manual for it.
    Last edited by Sberry; 05-11-2022 at 01:47 PM.

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    Re: Newbe Needs Help with Fuel Problem on Lincoln Advantage 400 Perkins Engine

    When had fuel problems with fuel I would a buy a new fuel line to can of fuel. This way I know where problem is, most time in old equipment it was the fuel line from tank to the pump or carburetor. Sometimes it was a rust in tank too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dnkendrick View Post
    Machine starts and runs for a second then goes to low idle then shuts down. IT will restart and do the same thing.
    I've changed Both filters and tried again with the same results.

    Any Ideas?

    THanks
    Dale

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    Re: Newbe Needs Help with Fuel Problem on Lincoln Advantage 400 Perkins Engine

    Sounds like the low oil shutdown circuit is kicking in!
    Stupid question but have you checked the oil level and added if low?

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    Re: Newbe Needs Help with Fuel Problem on Lincoln Advantage 400 Perkins Engine

    Could be bad too
    But all the low oil shutdown circuit that I have seen had led that tells you.

    Dave

    Quote Originally Posted by rexcormack View Post
    Sounds like the low oil shutdown circuit is kicking in!
    Stupid question but have you checked the oil level and added if low?

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    Re: Newbe Needs Help with Fuel Problem on Lincoln Advantage 400 Perkins Engine

    Change the oil and filter the filter might have a bypass and it might be not working just a guess

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    Re: Newbe Needs Help with Fuel Problem on Lincoln Advantage 400 Perkins Engine

    from what I remember, the perkins diesel has a little lever on the lift pump to prime the fuel filter. Can you work that lever and feel resistance? Then will the engine start and keep running or does it still go to low idle and quit? You have a fuel supply line breaking down internally and stopping the fuel from flowing to the lift pump OR the lift pump is bad.

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    Re: Newbe Needs Help with Fuel Problem on Lincoln Advantage 400 Perkins Engine

    Could be sucking air on the suction side of the pump.

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    Re: Newbe Needs Help with Fuel Problem on Lincoln Advantage 400 Perkins Engine

    I had test tank about 1/2 gal that could vise grip above the carburetor and line to the carb. I got a low cost forklift.

    Then new if was a fuel problem or something else.

    The one problem was most hard to find was old forklift. It had new carburetor, new coil and all new lines .
    But the problem was the distributor hard a worn bearing. Replaced the bearing and ran great 👍.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAVEMANN View Post
    Could be sucking air on the suction side of the pump.

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    Re: Newbe Needs Help with Fuel Problem on Lincoln Advantage 400 Perkins Engine

    Dave, it's a perkins diesel...no carb and no electrical distributor.

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    Re: Newbe Needs Help with Fuel Problem on Lincoln Advantage 400 Perkins Engine

    I just pointing out in gasoline engines problems I have had.
    Most problems I had with diesel was a fuel line or tank problem

    But point was to a clean tank and line to isolated the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillE.Dee View Post
    Dave, it's a perkins diesel...no carb and no electrical distributor.

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    Re: Newbe Needs Help with Fuel Problem on Lincoln Advantage 400 Perkins Engine

    OK Dave. Just thought that you went off on a walkabout. But yeah, it does sound like a hose problem or junk in the tank

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    Re: Newbe Needs Help with Fuel Problem on Lincoln Advantage 400 Perkins Engine

    Some of perkins diesel engines use distributor and one pump, this can make harder to find the problem.

    I like Cat engines as they use a injector pump for each piston.

    But do most common problems first the fuel lines and tank.

    After that I just have the injector pump rebuilt.
    Saves time and money.

    If Cat they are easier to rebuild in the feild.

    Dave

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    Re: Newbe Needs Help with Fuel Problem on Lincoln Advantage 400 Perkins Engine

    Shine a flashlight after dark into the tank (Don't use a torch).... could be an in tank filter or I've seen little balls of solder roll around in there and block off the fuel leaving. Engine quits and it rolls away. Starts back up and it got drawn into the inlet again.
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    Re: Newbe Needs Help with Fuel Problem on Lincoln Advantage 400 Perkins Engine

    Quote Originally Posted by whtbaron View Post
    Shine a flashlight after dark into the tank (Don't use a torch).... could be an in tank filter or I've seen little balls of solder roll around in there and block off the fuel leaving. Engine quits and it rolls away. Starts back up and it got drawn into the inlet again.
    might be anything blocking the flow of fuel from inside the tank. But I'd start with the cheap stuff first.

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    Re: Newbe Needs Help with Fuel Problem on Lincoln Advantage 400 Perkins Engine

    I guess a arc from welder, match or a lighter is out too.

    Dave

    Quote Originally Posted by whtbaron View Post
    Shine a flashlight after dark into the tank (Don't use a torch).... could be an in tank filter or I've seen little balls of solder roll around in there and block off the fuel leaving. Engine quits and it rolls away. Starts back up and it got drawn into the inlet again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillE.Dee View Post
    might be anything blocking the flow of fuel from inside the tank. But I'd start with the cheap stuff first.
    I thought looking in the tank was the cheap stuff...
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    Re: Newbe Needs Help with Fuel Problem on Lincoln Advantage 400 Perkins Engine

    could always stuff a skinny kid inside with a snorkel to have a look around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillE.Dee View Post
    could always stuff a skinny kid inside with a snorkel to have a look around.
    I was the "skinny kid" when I was in the US NAVY,, in 1972,,
    When there was a leak in a fresh water tank, they "stuffed" me in the port of the tank,, to find the leak,, and weld it.

    Those tanks were somehow coated with zinc inside (galvanized??) The tanks were over 2,000 gallons, and only a couple feet wide.
    It got to the point that I knew the next day I would be "flu sick",, but, the tank had to be welded,,

    Those tanks were several feet above and below the waterline, inside the hull,,
    probably a little extra torpedo protection??

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