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Re: Running a tig welder on a generator safely
Maybe you need some education in electronics.
FYI I had classes in electronics.
Dave
Originally Posted by
Oscar
Exactly. Like the ad quoted above, it should be ignored. Perfect example.
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Re: Running a tig welder on a generator safely
Originally Posted by
danielplace
Every single thread ?
You should probably not post when completely clueless to a topic. So much incorrect blah blah.
Perhaps you missed my thread on subject.
Time to get a hobby…
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Re: Running a tig welder on a generator safely
Originally Posted by
smithdoor
FYI I had classes in electronics.
Dave
Yeah yeah yeah
I did this
I did that
I know this
I know that.
Meanwhile we haven’t seen proof you can even strike in arc.
Time to shut the pie hole.
Just another keyboard Welder.
PS:
I was giving you some slack for the constant spelling errors and general stupidity….. because of the cancer.
But cancer or not,
Time to chill out dude.
This is not the smithdoor forum.
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Re: Running a tig welder on a generator safely
Chill John T
The ad you read must be true.
I guess you are a keyboard welder John T .
Because you disagree you bad month the messager John T .
Dave
Originally Posted by
John T
Yeah yeah yeah
I did this
I did that
I know this
I know that.
Meanwhile we haven’t seen proof you can even strike in arc.
Time to shut the pie hole.
Just another keyboard Welder.
PS:
I was giving you some slack for the constant spelling errors and general stupidity….. because of the cancer.
But cancer or not,
Time to chill out dude.
This is not the smithdoor forum.
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Re: Running a tig welder on a generator safely
In high school I took a few classes until found out TV tech got less 1/2 what I getting doing Iron work and welding.
Dave
Originally Posted by
Oscar
I don't believe this ad.
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Re: Running a tig welder on a generator safely
I will say that without naming names, there are two people on this business subforum who have pretty much turned it into their own echo chamber. Unfortunately, the signal to noise ratio here is such that I often feel it's a waste of my time to post nowadays. In the beginning, I was super stoked that we finally had this place. Now, I'm bummed that the reality fell really short of what this could have been.
I wish we could "vote people off the island". Just let them post in the general forums.
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Re: Running a tig welder on a generator safely
I guess you not just disagree
INXS2 clicked Dislikes for your post: Re: Running a tig welder on a generator safely! https://weldingweb.com/vbb/threads/R...59#post8864259
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Re: Running a tig welder on a generator safely
Most do not do that because if some disagree they want to remove.
Then group shinks and the advertisers will pull there support.
Now the site dies.
Dave
Originally Posted by
Oscar
General forums want that voting ability too.
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Re: Running a tig welder on a generator safely
Originally Posted by
smithdoor
Most do not do that because if some disagree they want to remove.
Then group shinks and the advertisers will pull there support.
Now the site dies.
Dave
It isn't about disagreeing. It's about removing those who post bad (WRONG) or completely off-topic and useless information OVER and OVER and OVER again.
Unfortunately, those people (like I said, in my opinion there are only TWO on this subforum) totally ruin it's core purpose, which is to HELP people who are new businessmen or who have unique problems.
Removing two people from having posting abilities in this particular subforum would totally clean the place up. I don't have time to debate every wrong or useless answer that's constantly spewed here by these two posters. Removing them would actually increase ad revenue, because new people would find this place to be useful.
All opinions are not equal. Not every opinion deserves a public voice. That's what's gotten this entire world so screwed up in the last two decades. If 80% of a subforum's participants think that a person should be read-only on that subforum (meaning unable to post), then chances are, they're right.
End of dissertation.
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Re: Running a tig welder on a generator safely
Ok them you would fit that category
Dave
Originally Posted by
tbone550
It isn't about disagreeing. It's about removing those who post bad (WRONG) or completely off-topic and useless information OVER and OVER and OVER again.
Unfortunately, those people (like I said, in my opinion there are only TWO on this subforum) totally ruin it's core purpose, which is to HELP people who are new businessmen or who have unique problems.
Removing two people from having posting abilities in this particular subforum would totally clean the place up. I don't have time to debate every wrong or useless answer that's constantly spewed here by these two posters. Removing them would actually increase ad revenue, because new people would find this place to be useful.
All opinions are not equal. Not every opinion deserves a public voice. That's what's gotten this entire world so screwed up in the last two decades. If 80% of a subforum's participants think that a person should be read-only on that subforum (meaning unable to post), then chances are, they're right.
End of dissertation.
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Re: Running a tig welder on a generator safely
I came across this thread and don't like to put people down but totally agree that some people need to do a lot more reading and research before they post stuff on a forum. I think it is pretty well known that good inverter generators produce the cleanest power that is the closest to the power in your house. (of course industrial diesel generators produce very clean power but are also very pricey) That's why they are recommended for sensitive electronic equipment. Seems to me modern welders would have sensitive electronics in them. It's never a bad idea to have a larger generator than what you might actually require. No different than a welding machine. You don't have to use all the output but it's sure nice to have when you need it. I'm not sure if I would use a low cost no name generator on a more expensive Tig welder unless the welder specifically stated it would work on dirty power. If I had a Miller Tig welder and Miller said it would run off a Miller Trailblazer and/or Bobcat I would have no issues doing that. Sometimes it's better to pay more than take a chance the cheapest machine you can find will do the job.
Smithdoor has cancer and some other issues which give him a little leeway but that can only go so far. Trying to reason with him on some subjects makes you want to bang your head against the wall. Sorry to say but it is hard to accept information from someone who isn't fully versed on a subject. Trying to explain to him that tensile strength alone is very poor way to compare filler metals has me wanting to take up drinking. I'm going through cancer treatments too and recovering from a stem cell transplant. I don't think that gives me leeway to post erroneous information. To put it in general terms, it's hard to take advice from someone who thinks E71-T11 is somehow very close in strength to 7018. He just cannot accept that he doesn't know all the factors involved in determining what makes filler metals have completely different mechanical properties despite having similar tensile strengths. I have gone over this ad nauseum with him several times and he just doesn't get it. I think he may have similar views on other subjects such as this thread on generators. I don't think he's a bad guy or anything. I think he just needs to accept that he doesn't know as much as he thinks he does and maybe should read a little more and post less. Sorry but that's how I see it.
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Re: Running a tig welder on a generator safely
Does cancer treatment prevent you from using spell check?
instead of posting Nonsense 100 times a day,
Maybe use spell check and only post 95 times a day
That way your wrong information and hard headedness will be somewhat intelligible.
Smith is the perfect example of a bored retired guy with no hobby's.
If he didn't have a forum he would be staring at the wall talking to himself.
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Re: Running a tig welder on a generator safely
Doing CPR on the poor horse 🐎.
Dave
Originally Posted by
John T
Does cancer treatment prevent you from using spell check?
instead of posting Nonsense 100 times a day,
Maybe use spell check and only post 95 times a day
That way your wrong information and hard headedness will be somewhat intelligible.
Smith is the perfect example of a bored retired guy with no hobby's.
If he didn't have a forum he would be staring at the wall talking to himself.
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Re: Running a tig welder on a generator safely
Last edited by Broccoli1; 06-02-2022 at 07:08 PM.
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Re: Running a tig welder on a generator safely
A inverter can have any wave form
A AVR is Automatic Voltage Regular found most all types of generators
Dave
Originally Posted by
Broccoli1
Hey Dave,
I understand what yer trying to say but the dam generator is not exactly the same as a portable generator- the very obvious is the the size.
the small size of the regular portable generators leads to a sloppy sine wave and you really need to almost double the size to handle a sensitive load.
An inverter really is a cleaner wave.
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Re: Running a tig welder on a generator safely
I’m fairly new to welding, but maybe this info will help somone. I had a question about running my Miller Multimatic 215 from my Generac XG8000e. Not wanting to damage my unit, I contacted Miller technical dept. directly, as well as Generac technical. I found out that the Generac XG8000e runs about 5.3 on the sine wave scale, and the Miller tech guys told me that is just fine for their welders, no issues, except this 8000 running watt generator will not be adequate on some more demanding welds, due to limited amps [it has a 30 amp plug for 240v] which maxed out, some welds might need 45 or 50 amps the machine is rated for.
Now, if one could get the XG10,000e, then that has 10,000 running watts and will power most welders. That Powerhouse unit that puts out 12,000 watts also looks intriguing to me.
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Re: Running a tig welder on a generator safely
Sounds good to me.
Running a generator is great for job site. Since most welding generator type have a low wattage ac generator if you lucky. Plus if you do not say welding in your name the insurance is lower in cost too ( no big red welding machine to say I am a welder)
Today I would say Smith portable machine shop and welding
Dave
Originally Posted by
metalmelter2021
I’m fairly new to welding, but maybe this info will help somone. I had a question about running my Miller Multimatic 215 from my Generac XG8000e. Not wanting to damage my unit, I contacted Miller technical dept. directly, as well as Generac technical. I found out that the Generac XG8000e runs about 5.3 on the sine wave scale, and the Miller tech guys told me that is just fine for their welders, no issues, except this 8000 running watt generator will not be adequate on some more demanding welds, due to limited amps [it has a 30 amp plug for 240v] which maxed out, some welds might need 45 or 50 amps the machine is rated for.
Now, if one could get the XG10,000e, then that has 10,000 running watts and will power most welders. That Powerhouse unit that puts out 12,000 watts also looks intriguing to me.
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