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    Quote Originally Posted by danielplace View Post

    I doubt they have anyone anymore that is repairing these at Vitcor/Esab to know anything about how they come apart. Warrantees are probably just replaced.


    When I sent mine in, I got the same handle back.... but that must be around 6 or 7 yrs ago now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by whtbaron View Post
    When I sent mine in, I got the same handle back.... but that must be around 6 or 7 yrs ago now...
    The used to be made in the US but the entry level type from China may not be rebuildable that way. ???? Cost them more to look at it than just to replace it.

    Coud not find any parts for the torch or any Victir check valves sporting male threads on both ends like that would have on it.

    Victor sells a set of flashback arrestors specifically with that torch in mind. Just fits any standard "B" fittings of course.

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    The Victor higher quality torches have easily replaceable flashback arrestors that seal with orings. Even says easily change without heat.

    https://esab.com/us/nam_en/products-...retro-fit-kit/

    "The retro-fit kit allows replacement of built-in flash arrestors for cutting torches without the use of Loctite or heat."

    Kinda tells that his check valves are pretty sure locktited in.

    He has another on the way already. Hopefully they are even lengths.
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    Re: Oxy-Mapp torch constantly loses puddle.

    I never had to send any torches in for repair. But needs work I just do the work. Witch is almost never.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whtbaron View Post
    When I sent mine in, I got the same handle back.... but that must be around 6 or 7 yrs ago now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielplace View Post
    The used to be made in the US but the entry level type from China may not be rebuildable that way. ???? Cost them more to look at it than just to replace it.
    I was lucky enough to get in on the early Chinesium. Mine was the same handle, but the issue was blasting beads trapped in the orifices during construction. Pulling it apart and cleaning would be a less challenging process then rebuilding I suppose... but not much.
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    All my Victor torches are American made. They work great too and last a very long time ⌛.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whtbaron View Post
    I was lucky enough to get in on the early Chinesium. Mine was the same handle, but the issue was blasting beads trapped in the orifices during construction. Pulling it apart and cleaning would be a less challenging process then rebuilding I suppose... but not much.

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    Re: Oxy-Mapp torch constantly loses puddle.

    More proof Victor likes to do them different lengths. WTH !!!

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    Re: Oxy-Mapp torch constantly loses puddle.

    Considerate. Easier to wrench.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tapwelder View Post
    Considerate. Easier to wrench.
    correct!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tapwelder View Post
    Considerate. Easier to wrench.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lis2323 View Post
    correct!
    I must be missing what your saying/meaning. Staggered 1/8" makes them easier to do what ?

    Have you looked at the nipple spacing of a Victor torch lately. There is an inch between the "B" fittings.

    For what tightening the check valve or the hose ?

    I can only guess you mean tighten in short one first and longer one second and makes it easy with second one being longer.

    But that makes no sense really as those short little check valves you would just grab a deep 6 point socket and thread them in, eh ? Or a box end even clears the other one on most Victor spacing.

    The hose if you can't tighten them side by side having them off in length by 1/8" sure isn't going to help anything. You have to have all of the wrench flat on the brass.

    The Miller/Smith has their nipples as close as I have seen and zero issues tightening equal length check valves/flashback arrestors or the hoses.

    These are close but you just thread on with fingers and a 1/4 turn with open end and done.

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    Re: Oxy-Mapp torch constantly loses puddle.

    In my experience, my wrenches butt the opposing nut. It has bothered me in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tapwelder View Post
    In my experience, my wrenches butt the opposing nut. It has bothered me in the past.
    I just knew that doesn't happen so had to go see if possible. Nope you can't hit the other nut if you tried or don't know how to use a wrench. Lol

    After I shot the video I put a separate wrench on each since they are right and left hand threads and you can tighten them both at once and even then the wrenches were not even hitting each other.

    I even just went and put a fitting wrench on them and you can tighten enough in one set of the wrench.

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    Re: Oxy-Mapp torch constantly loses puddle.

    Oh well, I sure flung some bad words around trying to get mine off. I even got one stuck and twisted the valve apart. Cool to know it can’t happen though.

    Thanks for the video.

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    Re: Oxy-Mapp torch constantly loses puddle.

    that offset does make it easier to slide the quick coupler sleeve though....

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    Quote Originally Posted by tapwelder View Post
    Oh well, I sure flung some bad words around trying to get mine off. I even got one stuck and twisted the valve apart. Cool to know it can’t happen though.

    Thanks for the video.
    Sorry to hear of your struggles and that certainly sucks. Not sure how or why that would happen though. Sounds really tight or corroded or some way damaged to be needing to be wrenching on them like that. I doubt 1/8" of offset was the answer to eliminate tearing up a torch with the wrench's.

    I certainly recon anyone could make the wrench hit the other nut if you don't start with it in the proper orientation but just saying if wrench is properly placed there is no way to go so far you hit the other nut before the fitting is completely loosened or from finger tight to tightened fully.

    You realize that it is no more than 1/8 turn from finger tight to fully tight. Like one half of a flat on the hex fitting in rotation. You just crack it loose or bump it tight. There is so little rotation to install or remove these type of fittings.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lis2323 View Post
    that offset does make it easier to slide the quick coupler sleeve though....
    Looks like the one red fuel quick connect sleeve is already made longer to accomplish releasing them easily when the two are installed at the same length.
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    Re: Oxy-Mapp torch constantly loses puddle.

    The other torch came today.

    All is right with the world nowÖ bezos can deal with it.

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    Re: Oxy-Mapp torch constantly loses puddle.

    Looks like quick disconnect.
    I never use quick disconnect on my torches as like to leak after some time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrooklynBravest View Post
    The other torch came today.

    All is right with the world nowÖ bezos can deal with it.

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    Re: Oxy-Mapp torch constantly loses puddle.

    Quote Originally Posted by smithdoor View Post
    Looks like quick disconnect.
    I never use quick disconnect on my torches as like to leak after some time.

    Dave
    They can... all it takes to fix them is a little O ring... no biggie. I'd fix my quick disconnects in a heartbeat over not having them.

    Interesting to note that even in the matched set the little grooves are there to set them apart... I guess the other set was just sloppy machining...
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    Re: Oxy-Mapp torch constantly loses puddle.

    Why are you removing the torch?

    My torch is on hose all time till I need a new hose.

    Dave

    Quote Originally Posted by whtbaron View Post
    They can... all it takes to fix them is a little O ring... no biggie. I'd fix my quick disconnects in a heartbeat over not having them.

    Interesting to note that even in the matched set the little grooves are there to set them apart... I guess the other set was just sloppy machining...

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    Quote Originally Posted by smithdoor View Post
    Why are you removing the torch?

    My torch is on hose all time till I need a new hose.

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    track torch or separate welding and cutting torches
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    Quote Originally Posted by smithdoor View Post
    Why are you removing the torch?

    My torch is on hose all time till I need a new hose.

    Dave
    In my case, storage.

    From what I’ve seen though many guys have 2-3 torches so it’s easy for them to snap on and off.

    Our torch at work has them so you don’t crimp the hoses storing it in our tight spaces.
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    Re: Oxy-Mapp torch constantly loses puddle.

    I just use a second set of tanks and gauges as more than one person is using the torches.

    Dave

    Quote Originally Posted by Lis2323 View Post
    track torch or separate welding and cutting torches

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    Re: Oxy-Mapp torch constantly loses puddle.

    This torch was on tanks from 1980 to 2009. I never take torch off the tanks unless I am driving down the road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrooklynBravest View Post
    In my case, storage.

    From what I’ve seen though many guys have 2-3 torches so it’s easy for them to snap on and off.

    Our torch at work has them so you don’t crimp the hoses storing it in our tight spaces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smithdoor View Post
    I just use a second set of tanks and gauges as more than one person is using the torches.

    Dave
    I work alone so just one set of tanks and the most expensive part of having them now is the contract, so extra tanks would just increase the contract cost. My cutting torch lives on the Victor handle like Brooklyn's, rosebud stays on the other large handle and the fine welding tip (#00) stays on the light handle. I can be standing at the welding table and using all 3 on a project with almost no changeover time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tapwelder View Post
    Considerate. Easier to wrench.
    Sorry for giving you grief. Certainly, they were done on purpose and that must be the only purpose for the stagger I agree.

    Must really be a Victor thing. Miller/Smith's are all even. It's all I own.(1 uniweld set) Lol. Like Blue versus Red they each have quirks.

    Quote Originally Posted by BrooklynBravest View Post
    The other torch came today.

    All is right with the world now… bezos can deal with it.

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    That is awesome. Life is good. EVEN doggone fittings. I like it.
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    Re: Oxy-Mapp torch constantly loses puddle.

    I use just one handle and switch from cutting to rose 🌹 bud to welding tip.

    For me have extra tanks leftovers.

    It simpler for me to switch the tips or cutting attachments.

    Dave

    Quote Originally Posted by whtbaron View Post
    I work alone so just one set of tanks and the most expensive part of having them now is the contract, so extra tanks would just increase the contract cost. My cutting torch lives on the Victor handle like Brooklyn's, rosebud stays on the other large handle and the fine welding tip (#00) stays on the light handle. I can be standing at the welding table and using all 3 on a project with almost no changeover time.

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