Best welding helmet for tig?

[Wolf_Welder]

On the machine or helmet? Helmet doesn't have those options and I don't use pulse on my machine because it's a 0 skill required way of welding.

[Wolf_Welder]

It's not that I don't want him too it's just that 1 I don't think he's pay 1k he agreed to buy me a helmet for around 500 but I already have a credit for 500 so I'll use it towards a helmet and if it's more then I'll ask him to cover the rest up to 500$. I just don't want to get the g5-02 for it to be trash. I have no experience with speed glad except the cheaper ones and they weren't that good.

[Wolf_Welder]

Nah, I choose the helmet and he splits it with me. Harbor freight helmets are **** fyi. I can't use something that'll fail in a few months when Im doing work worth hundreds of thousands for the navy, hospitals, casinos, police, and other huge companies

[Wolf_Welder]

Well idk if the g5-02 is even a good helmet or worth anything close to it's price.

[MetalMan23]

Nah, I choose the helmet and he splits it with me. Harbor freight helmets are **** fyi. I can't use something that'll fail in a few months when Im doing work worth hundreds of thousands for the navy, hospitals, casinos, police, and other huge companies

And no pulse welding either, because everyone knows that's no skill required type of work

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[MetalMan23]

On the machine or helmet? Helmet doesn't have those options and I don't use pulse on my machine because it's a 0 skill required way of welding.

Tig welding in general is zero skill, get a real job

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[shovelon]

Nah, I choose the helmet and he splits it with me. Harbor freight helmets are **** fyi. I can't use something that'll fail in a few months when Im doing work worth hundreds of thousands for the navy, hospitals, casinos, police, and other huge companies

Hmmmm. I give my employees a hood. After that they go buy whatever they want on their nickle.

Once you go pro you will have backups.

[shovelon]

On the machine or helmet? Helmet doesn't have those options and I don't use pulse on my machine because it's a 0 skill required way of welding.

Huh, WUT? Does it have adjustable/programmable arc start at least? Is it inverter or transformer?

[smithdoor]

Never say that here
From my back ground stick is hardest then fluxcore. Mig and Tig is easy to ?????

Dave

Tig welding in general is zero skill, get a real job

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[MetalMan23]

Never say that here
From my back ground stick is hardest then fluxcore. Mig and Tig is easy to ?????

Dave

I'm just giving the OP a hard time because of his statements about zero skill work, and huge clients that he works for.



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[smithdoor]

I can not say tig was hard as last one I learned. It like using a torch with hood on. Both are slow 🐌 and I need speed.
Even stick was easy for but a lot of people have hard time with stick too. Fluxcore is always a problem since most try weld like mig and does not workout .

Dave

I'm just giving the OP a hard time because of his statements about zero skill work, and huge clients that he works for.



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[Wolf_Welder]

Transformer I believe, miller syncrowave 350

[Wolf_Welder]

Idk about you but anyone can learn to lay mig dimes in any position in under 5 hours and stick is just as easy. From single passes go multipasses including bevels and different electrodes for root welds etc. Tig is the one that actually takes time and all to learn and no one truly masters it.

[Wolf_Welder]

I didn't quite get what you meant by your comment lol, to me and many others pulsing just requires no skill or pedal control because all you do is drag the torch like a mig gun and throw in wire if you even need any. It has its uses but anyone who use it as their primary source of welding has no business saying they can weld because anyone can use pulse.

[Wolf_Welder]

I personally think flux is easier than mig. Smoother too. I don't use them on a daily basis because I prefer to specialize in tig as I believe that's where the money's at for precision time consuming work

[Wolf_Welder]

I'm just trying to figure out if the miller digital elite is good or if it's worth getting the speedglas g5-02

[52 Ford]

Idk about you but anyone can learn to lay mig dimes in any position in under 5 hours and stick is just as easy. From single passes go multipasses including bevels and different electrodes for root welds etc. Tig is the one that actually takes time and all to learn and no one truly masters it.

Ehhhhh........ that's a mighty big statement to make.

I'm not saying you're wrong or right.

BUT, I don't care about stacking dimes. I like GOOD welds. Teach a new welder to set their own machine and run any position with GOOD results in 5 hours, whether MIG or SMAW and you might as well be a magician.



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[shovelon]

I didn't quite get what you meant by your comment lol, to me and many others pulsing just requires no skill or pedal control because all you do is drag the torch like a mig gun and throw in wire if you even need any. It has its uses but anyone who use it as their primary source of welding has no business saying they can weld because anyone can use pulse.

High Speed pulse. You don't have it on your Synch350. You are describing low speed pulse for cadence. I get you, kind of dumb and I don't waste my time with low speed pulse. High Speed pulse is like 100 pps and above for DC arc puddle agitation, and perhaps arc flaring for low penetration.
High speed pulse also keeps your hood sensors excited for darkening. Sometimes a low standard arc results in flashing. Most really high quality hoods have sensitivity adjustment but many times does not get it done. I found this out when my AD would not stay dark on DC but always did fine on AC.

[Thoriated Wolfram]

I didn't quite get what you meant by your comment lol, to me and many others pulsing just requires no skill or pedal control because all you do is drag the torch like a mig gun and throw in wire if you even need any. It has its uses but anyone who use it as their primary source of welding has no business saying they can weld because anyone can use pulse.

Well at the risk of derailing the thread further....

Ancient welding proverb say "ask 5 welders how to do something and get 7 answers" (or some variation of).

Just because there's different ways of doing it, does not mean that it's a "lesser" way. Honestly I'm confused why you wouldn't make the easiest welds you could, that's why machine welders and positioners were invented. Because it's economical and doing a repetitive job over and over you want to make it easier on yourself. I get it we all like to flex about how difficult manual welding is, but unless you're welding strictly for the challenge of it, economics play a factor. The hard way is almost never going to be the most efficient, and when you quote a job based on how long it'll take you, are you not incentivized to be efficient while maintaining quality? That's more money for you, your company, or your customer if you pass it along to them. If difficulty is your jam why not use the same gear they used when they invented TIG and it was called heliarc? Modern high frequency arc starting bah, AC welding on aluminum? Bah where's the challenge if the polarity cleans for you, just do DCEN and suffer through the contamination because it's way harder that way. Next you'll tell me you only use 1/8" diameter tungsten regardless of amperage because fighting arc wander means you have more skill.

You have a unique and rather blind outlook on welding if I'm honest. To say that pulse welding is automatically easier and it's beneath your skill because it requires no effort is also patently wrong from my experience.

We build a job at work, it's 0.063" titanium to RPS11.14 (Goodrich's aerospace fusion welding spec), it mandates all sorts of high quality requirements, chief among them is no blue on the weld. This job is a bunch of really horrible access fillet welds, if you try and straight amps (no pulse) dab wire into it you'll be there forever, probably overheat everything and get all sorts of bluing. Or you can set your machine to floor the pedal (because it's all the same thickness so why not make it consistent) and pulse over the wire, meeting the customer drawing/weld spec and doing it faster than you would otherwise by miles. And guess what? The limited access nature of the weld joint still makes it an incredibly difficult job.

Don't even get me started on weld repairing a longitudinal machine weld on sintered mesh made out of a nonsense alloy with straight amps, best of luck. Or materials that qualify as foil, so below 0.010" thick. A welder who knows how to set the pulse to get the results he wants is a better welder than one who never uses it all in my opinion. I see it at work all the time, guys who run straight amps on some of the Inconel alloys always seem to end up with more defects than guys who run high frequency pulse all the time.

On the topic of which hood to buy, do what you want, as I stated before every hood has it's drawbacks. In the price bracket you're looking at I don't think you can go wrong with either one.

[MetalMan23]

Well at the risk of derailing the thread further....

Ancient welding proverb say "ask 5 welders how to do something and get 7 answers" (or some variation of).

Just because there's different ways of doing it, does not mean that it's a "lesser" way. Honestly I'm confused why you wouldn't make the easiest welds you could, that's why machine welders and positioners were invented. Because it's economical and doing a repetitive job over and over you want to make it easier on yourself. I get it we all like to flex about how difficult manual welding is, but unless you're welding strictly for the challenge of it, economics play a factor. The hard way is almost never going to be the most efficient, and when you quote a job based on how long it'll take you, are you not incentivized to be efficient while maintaining quality? That's more money for you, your company, or your customer if you pass it along to them. If difficulty is your jam why not use the same gear they used when they invented TIG and it was called heliarc? Modern high frequency arc starting bah, AC welding on aluminum? Bah where's the challenge if the polarity cleans for you, just do DCEN and suffer through the contamination because it's way harder that way. Next you'll tell me you only use 1/8" diameter tungsten regardless of amperage because fighting arc wander means you have more skill.

You have a unique and rather blind outlook on welding if I'm honest. To say that pulse welding is automatically easier and it's beneath your skill because it requires no effort is also patently wrong from my experience.

We build a job at work, it's 0.063" titanium to RPS11.14 (Goodrich's aerospace fusion welding spec), it mandates all sorts of high quality requirements, chief among them is no blue on the weld. This job is a bunch of really horrible access fillet welds, if you try and straight amps (no pulse) dab wire into it you'll be there forever, probably overheat everything and get all sorts of bluing. Or you can set your machine to floor the pedal (because it's all the same thickness so why not make it consistent) and pulse over the wire, meeting the customer drawing/weld spec and doing it faster than you would otherwise by miles. And guess what? The limited access nature of the weld joint still makes it an incredibly difficult job.

Don't even get me started on weld repairing a longitudinal machine weld on sintered mesh made out of a nonsense alloy with straight amps, best of luck. Or materials that qualify as foil, so below 0.010" thick. A welder who knows how to set the pulse to get the results he wants is a better welder than one who never uses it all in my opinion. I see it at work all the time, guys who run straight amps on some of the Inconel alloys always seem to end up with more defects than guys who run high frequency pulse all the time.

On the topic of which hood to buy, do what you want, as I stated before every hood has it's drawbacks. In the price bracket you're looking at I don't think you can go wrong with either one.

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[cornchip]

im now convinced the OP is a kid in his moms basement playing jokes

[Lis2323]

im now convinced the OP is a kid in his moms basement playing jokes

pretty smart kid if so….


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[cornchip]

whats so smart about him ? i havent seen any proof yet

[smithdoor]

Welcome to group.
I use a welding hood when I did tig welding.
Today I just fluxcore welding or torch.
If did tig I would just use a welding hood.

Dave

what is the best welding helmet for tig? im in the USA, i like the miller infinitys field of view but the lens isent super clear, is the miller digital elite clearlight 2.0 good? anything better? anyone have any recommendations? no optrel products though please.

[Rondo]

Many of the low cost hoods will flash light and dark under 30 amps. Get clarification on low amp use prior to purchase.