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    I bought a Wilson Hornet welder!

    It is a model B300. It is 3 phase. A post on another online forum said that it was built between 1939 and 1951 (?).

    Does anybody have any information about them? There is very little on the internet.

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    I will post more pictures later.
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    Re: I bought a Wilson Hornet welder!

    You have 3 PH power?

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    Re: I bought a Wilson Hornet welder!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sberry View Post
    You have 3 PH power?
    High amperage 3 phase power?
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    Re: I bought a Wilson Hornet welder!

    23 kW motor = 31 HP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sberry View Post
    You have 3 PH power?
    No, but it is at the pole at one of my properties--where I am eventually building a workshop/barn. I called the electric company and they confirmed the service.

    I honestly bought the welder because it looked so unique and it was $100. I couldn't pass it up. I'm not sure what I am going to do with it.

    I have thought about seeing if it can be converted to single phase.

    I have also considered slowly lurking online for a 3-phase generator. I have found that if I wait and watch for things on CL and FB I can usually get a very good deal.

    My third options it to create 3-phase power from single phase using a rotary phase converter. I saw a video on Youtube about it. This just looks darned interesting. I'd totally do this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericsarratt View Post
    No, but it is at the pole at one of my properties--where I am eventually building a workshop/barn. I called the electric company and they confirmed the service.

    I honestly bought the welder because it looked so unique and it was $100. I couldn't pass it up. I'm not sure what I am going to do with it.

    I have thought about seeing if it can be converted to single phase.

    I have also considered slowly lurking online for a 3-phase generator. I have found that if I wait and watch for things on CL and FB I can usually get a very good deal.

    My third options it to create 3-phase power from single phase using a rotary phase converter. I saw a video on Youtube about it. This just looks darned interesting. I'd totally do this!

    If you're looking for a 3 phase gen set, I recommend looking into military surplus. Off the top of my head, I think something like a MEP 806a is what you'd want... I could have that wrong, though.


    Edit: nope, I was right. Get you a MEP 806a. It's 60,000 watts of diesel powered 3 phase goodness.
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    https://www.govplanet.com/for-sale/G...rm=&pnLink=yes

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    Re: I bought a Wilson Hornet welder!

    Quote Originally Posted by 52 Ford View Post
    If you're looking for a 3 phase gen set, I recommend looking into military surplus. Off the top of my head, I think something like a MEP 806a is what you'd want... I could have that wrong, though.


    Edit: nope, I was right. Get you a MEP 806a. It's 60,000 watts of diesel powered 3 phase goodness.
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    Yeah. I have been focusing on military generators. Thank you for the information.

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    Re: I bought a Wilson Hornet welder!

    Do you have a welder that works? Or likely to work in the near future? Since there is no delete will leave this.
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    Re: I bought a Wilson Hornet welder!

    Quote Originally Posted by ericsarratt View Post
    Yeah. I have been focusing on military generators. Thank you for the information.
    https://www.govplanet.com/for-sale/G...rm=&pnLink=yes

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    Re: I bought a Wilson Hornet welder!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sberry View Post
    Do you have a welder that works? Or likely to work in the near future? Since there is no delete will leave this.

    No. I have been slowly shopping. I don't want to spend money right now because of other equipment purchases (sawmill, septic truck).

    I may get a 3-phase generator for the Hornet or make a rotary phase converter or I may just trade it for something cool. I couldn't pass it up for $100.
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    Re: I bought a Wilson Hornet welder!

    The Hornet specification plate says 220V/60 amps and 440V/30 amps. Does this mean that if I hook it up to 220 3-phase it will draw 60 amps and if I hook it up to 440 it will draw 30 amps?

    And regardless of which voltage I hook it to, it will still weld at 300 amps (lower pic), correct?


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    Re: I bought a Wilson Hornet welder!

    This also looks cheaply promising for 3-phase. I'm studying HVAC; this guys got good info.

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    Re: I bought a Wilson Hornet welder!

    Quote Originally Posted by ericsarratt View Post
    The Hornet specification plate says 220V/60 amps and 440V/30 amps. Does this mean that if I hook it up to 220 3-phase it will draw 60 amps and if I hook it up to 440 it will draw 30 amps?

    And regardless of which voltage I hook it to, it will still weld at 300 amps (lower pic), correct?


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    OK... quick lesson on AC electronics.

    You have watts, volts, and amps.

    Wattage is the power draw of the machine. Think of it like horsepower. In fact, one horsepower is 745 watts.

    The welder is going to draw (for all intents and purposes) the same wattage whether it's wired up 220V or 440V. The difference is the amperage. The derivative of wattage and voltage is amperage

    440V*30A=13,200W

    220V*60A=13,200W

    Keep in mind that this is the wattage at full load.

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    Re: I bought a Wilson Hornet welder!

    Thanks! That is what I wanted to know.
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    Re: I bought a Wilson Hornet welder!

    Quote Originally Posted by ericsarratt View Post
    Thanks! That is what I wanted to know.
    Glad to hear it!

    I really do think it's worth reading up on your basic electrical stuff. I find myself using that knowledge pretty often in day to day stuff

    The other thing, that I don't believe I mentioned, since 440V draws less amperage, you can use a smaller conductor size in the wiring.

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    Re: I bought a Wilson Hornet welder!

    Quote Originally Posted by 52 Ford View Post
    Glad to hear it!

    I really do think it's worth reading up on your basic electrical stuff. I find myself using that knowledge pretty often in day to day stuff

    The other thing, that I don't believe I mentioned, since 440V draws less amperage, you can use a smaller conductor size in the wiring.

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    I'm actually in a basic electric class in college right now.

    Thank you for all the help.
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