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    That is interesting though. I would be interesting in trying one out. Not sure if it is a necessary convenience considering the size of small inverters. Also, the smart electronics and LCD is in around spatter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tapwelder View Post
    That is interesting though. I would be interesting in trying one out. Not sure if it is a necessary convenience considering the size of small inverters. Also, the smart electronics and LCD is in around spatter.
    Well I have an ultra-small inverter, but this thing looks even more compact. I'll let you know how it works out. I ordered one for $100.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    Well I have an ultra-small inverter, but this thing looks even more compact. I'll let you know how it works out. I ordered one for $100.

    Cool. $100, I may give that a shot myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    Well I have an ultra-small inverter, but this thing looks even more compact. I'll let you know how it works out. I ordered one for $100.
    100 dollar welder. Umm... wear rubber gloves... lest you wanna get zapped.

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    I see a 110 volt version on wallyworld dot com for $65

    https://tinyurl.com/32ay85av
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    30 responses to a person who posted once and never replied again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psacustomcreations View Post
    30 responses to a person who posted once and never replied again.

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    he started a thread about cast iron lately.

    50 odd responses and nothing but his original post.
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    He doesn't even visit the site for several days after starting the thread.

    That's OK. We seem to have no problem entertaining ourselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bead-boy View Post
    That's OK. We seem to have no problem entertaining ourselves.
    How would YOU know?

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    Big can of JB WELD

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    Think farm repair
    Quote Originally Posted by Sberry View Post
    Buy a rugged stand alone common feeder. He already has a stick tig machine. Pro Mig or Hobart would be on top of my list, the 190 is spooly ready too. If you need 120V then not 4 u but there are a lot of machines on the used market and those are 2 you rarely see cause people buys them keep em.
    They sell 140's,,, to buy those.
    While the tig he has is ok its,,, I shouldnt say useless, you can be a fartstick and use it for farm equipment but the constant light ga common steel work is every day, or can be and exhaust, broken brackets fenders, any kind of saheet metal contraption, lots of it in farm. The wire feed was the Godsend for that work, got one prolly made 30000 welds, 50-75 rolls of wire thru it, just a guess, some longer welds but 1000;s of them like a pit stop where we got a unit next to the bench, longest thing is to remember where the hood is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 52 Ford View Post
    100 dollar welder. Umm... wear rubber gloves... lest you wanna get zapped.

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    The ultra-small inverter stick welder was $60. Never got zapped on it.

    Quote Originally Posted by bead-boy View Post
    I see a 110 volt version on wallyworld dot com for $65

    https://tinyurl.com/32ay85av
    That's a good find relatively speaking, but I have noticed that in some pictures of that style welder, it shows 220V on the sticker, but the description says 110/120V. The one I found was 220V, but now that I think about it, I might cancel that order since someone who would actually buy and want this style, likely isn't going to plug it into 220-240V.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 52 Ford View Post
    How would YOU know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    The ultra-small inverter stick welder was $60. Never got zapped on it.
    I believe it was 'This Old Tony' on YouTube that coined the phrase "Death Toaster" for those tiny inverter welders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 52 Ford View Post
    I believe it was 'This Old Tony' on YouTube that coined the phrase "Death Toaster" for those tiny inverter welders.

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    Yes, he's quite the entertainer.

    I found this video. Looks like most are geared towards the international market with the EU plug hence why most are 220V input. I assumed the handle was empty but I guess not.



    Looks a super mega ultra compactified version of the one I bought a couple years ago, except mine is dual-voltage.

    And look at this chick go!




    I thought the demo was going to be disastrous, but she actually knows what she's doing!


    Ya know, with the right 3D printed enclosure, I bet I could add a belt loop to the side, and you can just wear it on your hip when you need to go a small mobile welding job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    Yes, he's quite the entertainer.

    I found this video. Looks like most are geared towards the international market with the EU plug hence why most are 220V input. I assumed the handle was empty but I guess not.



    Looks a super mega ultra compactified version of the one I bought a couple years ago, except mine is dual-voltage.

    And look at this chick go!




    I thought the demo was going to be disastrous, but she actually knows what she's doing!


    Ya know, with the right 3D printed enclosure, I bet I could add a belt loop to the side, and you can just wear it on your hip when you need to go a small mobile welding job.
    Ah, yes. 200 amps on that 1/8" rod. Seems legit.

    Wonder what electrode that was. 7018 or 6013... Leaning towards 7018. Flux seems a bit "thin" for a 6013.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bead-boy View Post
    He doesn't even visit the site for several days after starting the thread.

    That's OK. We seem to have no problem entertaining ourselves.
    3 days on this one already.

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    Interesting video.
    I guess next is a hand held fluxcore welder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    Yes, he's quite the entertainer.

    I found this video. Looks like most are geared towards the international market with the EU plug hence why most are 220V input. I assumed the handle was empty but I guess not.



    Looks a super mega ultra compactified version of the one I bought a couple years ago, except mine is dual-voltage.

    And look at this chick go!




    I thought the demo was going to be disastrous, but she actually knows what she's doing!


    Ya know, with the right 3D printed enclosure, I bet I could add a belt loop to the side, and you can just wear it on your hip when you need to go a small mobile welding job.

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    Under $200.00 Amazon
    https://www.amazon.com/Welding-Porta.../dp/B09PH4WDQ7

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    Quote Originally Posted by 52 Ford View Post
    Ah, yes. 200 amps on that 1/8" rod. Seems legit.

    Wonder what electrode that was. 7018 or 6013... Leaning towards 7018. Flux seems a bit "thin" for a 6013.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smithdoor View Post
    Interesting video.
    I guess next is a hand held fluxcore welder.

    Dave
    http://readywelder.com/


    I used one years ago.

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    I can see be real handy for field work were welding is not primary work being do.

    Great for tool box 🧰.

    I see lot of Miller welders on service truck and about used for is 120 generator and almost never as a welder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tapwelder View Post
    http://readywelder.com/

    I used one years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielplace View Post
    Sorry, I had no internet where I was hiking. Mt.Baker. (I posted just before I left.)
    In regards to queries about "how thin", about 16 gauge.
    Is flux core wire something to consider here, for general maintenance work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stoneaxe View Post
    Sorry, I had no internet where I was hiking. Mt.Baker. (I posted just before I left.)
    In regards to queries about "how thin", about 16 gauge.
    Is flux core wire something to consider here, for general maintenance work?
    16ga is doable. Gasless flux core wire will be more difficult to run than solid wire using C25 gas, but if you have enough scrap to practice on, and are determined, it can be done. 030 diameter (for either case) would be sufficient. A machine with infinitely variable voltage and wirefeed speed would be ideal. On the low end 55-60 IPM would give good adjustability.
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    Re: Sell me on a welder type for thinwall steel, dirty steel.

    I agree 👍.

    Most of my work the spec call out no solid wire only stick or fluxcore. So all my welding was with stick or fluxcore.

    When work in machine shops they used solid wire E70S-3 and C25 nice and easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    16ga is doable. Gasless flux core wire will be more difficult to run than solid wire using C25 gas, but if you have enough scrap to practice on, and are determined, it can be done. 030 diameter (for either case) would be sufficient. A machine with infinitely variable voltage and wirefeed speed would be ideal. On the low end 55-60 IPM would give good adjustability.

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    Re: Sell me on a welder type for thinwall steel, dirty steel.

    The compact 200 amp Miller and Lincoln units have become insanely priced. I paid $1250 for my Multimatic
    215 five yrs ago. Now they're asking price is pushing $2100.

    There seems to be a fair number of failure posts on the ESAB Rebels, so they're on my no way in hell list.

    The Hobart Handler 190 and 210 MVP have had a solid 10+ yr run of production. Reason being because they are solid units.
    My current Hobart unit is a Multi-Handler 200. Since I haven't welded much at home in the past 2 yrs I really haven't used it much to give an opinion on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    The compact 200 amp Miller and Lincoln units have become insanely priced. I paid $1250 for my Multimatic
    215 five yrs ago. Now they're asking price is pushing $2100.

    There seems to be a fair number of failure posts on the ESAB Rebels, so they're on my no way in hell list.

    The Hobart Handler 190 and 210 MVP have had a solid 10+ yr run of production. Reason being because they are solid units.
    My current Hobart unit is a Multi-Handler 200. Since I haven't welded much at home in the past 2 yrs I really haven't used it much to give an opinion on it.
    I was looking at the miller 211- one of the online stores has them for about 1850. And Lincoln is offering a 400 buck rebate on the 210MP.
    I have no clue about how they compare, or ease of use by a beginner to MIG.
    Given Oscars comment about the difficulty of using flux core wire, maybe I better figure on solid.

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