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    Keeping stock

    Iíve noticed that some welding wire comes packaged in sealed pouches and, since I have wire thatís been on the shelf for over a year, it begs a few questions for me; 1) does exposure to air degrade the integrity of the wire; 2) should I keep my wire in a sealed bag and 3) as only a novice and occasional welder, is there a timeframe for any degradation? Thanks again for any insight.

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    It depends on the wire. What is the AWS classification of your wire?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bukeroo View Post
    I’ve noticed that some welding wire comes packaged in sealed pouches and, since I have wire that’s been on the shelf for over a year, it begs a few questions for me; 1) does exposure to air degrade the integrity of the wire; 2) should I keep my wire in a sealed bag and 3) as only a novice and occasional welder, is there a timeframe for any degradation? Thanks again for any insight.
    That's a pretty broad question considering the 100's of types of wire out there. For what wire costs, replacement liners and everything in between. You should always do your best to keep your wire dry, clean and free of contaminants. It should be kept in a sealed bag regardless.
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    Re: Keeping stock

    Quote Originally Posted by Bukeroo View Post
    I’ve noticed that some welding wire comes packaged in sealed pouches and, since I have wire that’s been on the shelf for over a year, it begs a few questions for me; 1) does exposure to air degrade the integrity of the wire; 2) should I keep my wire in a sealed bag and 3) as only a novice and occasional welder, is there a timeframe for any degradation? Thanks again for any insight.
    In Los Angeles you should not have to worry about moisture. I don't. Just keep it packed, boxed, or in a cabinet.
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    For hobby work, if the wire isn't rusty, you're fine.
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    Re: Keeping stock

    Thank you all for the answers. Right now I just have fluxcore and regular steel for mig and some aluminum that I tried with argon quite unsuccessful in their boxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    It depends on the wire. What is the AWS classification of your wire?
    I have no idea. Just now learning what AWS classifications are and the importance of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bukeroo View Post
    I have no idea. Just now learning what AWS classifications are and the importance of them.
    It only matters if there is a code to adhere to. Otherwise you can weld with coat hangers if you are competent.
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    Re: Keeping stock

    I have welded with coat hanger and
    propane cutting torch in field. Before I new better. It was 4Ĺ hours back to shop where the welder was sitting and my father ask weld a clip back on that was knocked off in shipping. I was also under 18 at time too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shovelon View Post
    It only matters if there is a code to adhere to. Otherwise you can weld with coat hangers if you are competent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    It depends on the wire. What is the AWS classification of your wire?
    Quote Originally Posted by Bukeroo View Post
    Thank you all for the answers. Right now I just have fluxcore and regular steel for mig and some aluminum that I tried with argon quite unsuccessful in their boxes.
    This is basically what I wanted to know, what kind of wire you were even talking about.

    Cored wires are the ones that are very susceptible to moisture entrapment, the other wires simply develop surface oxides. Moisture entrapment presents a bigger problem for cored wires than surface oxides on solid wires, since surface oxides can be removed with felt pads and what not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smithdoor View Post
    I have welded with coat hanger and
    propane cutting torch in field. Before I new better. It was 4Ĺ hours back to shop where the welder was sitting and my father ask weld a clip back on that was knocked off in shipping. I was also under 18 at time too.

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    yeah, its funny how many things worked ok, before we knew better. then when we know better, suddely its a problem. also 4.5 hrs back to shop, if ur dad was like mine, my *** would be grass, for not bringing welder the 1st time

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    I learned
    Most my fathers work was at less 4 hour drive some work was almost 12 hour of driving. Very little in town when I was growing up.

    Dave

    Quote Originally Posted by 123weld View Post
    yeah, its funny how many things worked ok, before we knew better. then when we know better, suddely its a problem. also 4.5 hrs back to shop, if ur dad was like mine, my *** would be grass, for not bringing welder the 1st time

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    I have never been on Greyhound buss.
    But I been with my mother at station a lot taking parts and bolts my forgot.
    This was before FedEx or UPS and the US mail would get there someday.
    Greyhound would deliver on next buss.

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    I had make clips before putting on Greyhound. This before I could drive.
    My mother take his shop cut clips then take back to home hobby shop and drill holes. I used a lot of cutting oil and sent on Greyhound smell of cutting oil no paint needed.

    Quote Originally Posted by 123weld View Post
    yeah, its funny how many things worked ok, before we knew better. then when we know better, suddely its a problem. also 4.5 hrs back to shop, if ur dad was like mine, my *** would be grass, for not bringing welder the 1st time
    Last edited by smithdoor; 08-10-2022 at 09:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    This is basically what I wanted to know, what kind of wire you were even talking about.

    Cored wires are the ones that are very susceptible to moisture entrapment, the other wires simply develop surface oxides. Moisture entrapment presents a bigger problem for cored wires than surface oxides on solid wires, since surface oxides can be removed with felt pads and what not.
    We’ll, it was a general question since I’m just now learning about welding and now wire composition. Thanks again for your responses. I’m learning.

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    The biggest problem with wire is rust will jam the feed.
    My line of work I keep only one to three months supply of wire. This because the type of work I did at any time it could be test and people lives could be in danger if a weld failed.
    If doing AG type work it ok to very old wire or rod, avoid rusty wire because of equipment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bukeroo View Post
    Iíve noticed that some welding wire comes packaged in sealed pouches and, since I have wire thatís been on the shelf for over a year, it begs a few questions for me; 1) does exposure to air degrade the integrity of the wire; 2) should I keep my wire in a sealed bag and 3) as only a novice and occasional welder, is there a timeframe for any degradation? Thanks again for any insight.

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    I threw out half a small roll of flux core after about a year.
    It had gotten a little rust on it and I wasn’t willing to put it
    through my liner. Haven’t had any problem with solid wire
    yet, and I don’t use mig very often. I have one roll that’s
    actually been out of the package for about four years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smithdoor View Post
    I learned
    Most my fathers work was at less 4 hour drive some work was almost 12 hour of driving. Very little in town when I was growing up.

    Dave
    4 hrs u could still get to sf, w/o heavy traffic. probaably la too. a summer day in sf, alot cooler than fresno

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    Quote Originally Posted by smithdoor View Post
    I have never been on Greyhound buss.
    But I been with my mother at station a lot taking parts and bolts my forgot.
    This was before FedEx or UPS and the US mail would get there someday.
    Greyhound would deliver on next buss.

    Dave

    I had make clips before putting on Greyhound. This before I could drive.
    My mother take his shop cut clips then take back to home hobby shop and drill holes. I used a lot of cutting oil and sent on Greyhound smell of cutting oil no paint needed.
    i completely forgot about that. i think i been to greyhound a time or two. when kids, we called the ups truck, the "swat van" . we'd yell "mom, swats here", cuz the tv show swat had a black van like that. while u were working and getting clips at greyhound, i was getting fishing poles w/ my moms grocery blue chip stamps

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