Disregard, no was reading inches. Harbor freight pipe roller will handle it though.

 

Tough one since 3 inch is wide. Typically you can find a die and roll a spiral and then form the rings by cutting the spiral apart. Then weld the resulting rings.

Could also "bump" it with a large radius die and a Hausfeld style bender.

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Well, you either need a big ring roller ($$) or a slip roller ($).

If I were you, I'd try making a product to match this stuff. https://www.lowes.com/pd/COL-MET-Brown-Powder-Coat-Steel-Landscape-Edging-Section/3015399 or a similar metal edging system. That way, you have the opportunity to upsell the client on edging their flowerbeds, too.

The only annoying thing about the product I linked to is that the stakes come spot welded to the edging and you have to pop them loose before installation. That said, I've installed it on customer jobs and at my own house.

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Well, you either need a big ring roller ($$) or a slip roller ($).

Slip roller.

I’m too lazy to go take a pic so this one will have to do

The day I picked it up and a month before adding a motor. Took me all of two minutes to realize cranking the dam• thing gets old real quick.

Edit. Found a pic

 

Ah, "Slip Roll". From the same folks that brought you "Actual Scissors".

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Unless you're going to make 100's of these rings just get your steel supplier or a fab shop to roll them for you. Even if they had an hour minimum could probably roll you a years worth. There are smaller 3 roll rollers and I think it was Shootr on here that made his own. Still by the time you did all that you could just get them rolled. It's not much different than shops that occasionally have to make a tank. It's not worth buying plate rolls you're only going to use intermittently.

 

You are talking about two different tools.
A slip roll will make the flat bar into rings as shown above.
A pipe or tube roller will make the arch you mentioned.
How many of each will you need and how frequently?
How large of an arch do you need?
Do you have the space for the tools and the material as it goes in and out of the tool?
As Welder Dave said, it may be easier or cheaper to have a shop make them for you. Just add 10% or so to the price and charge that to the customer.
I have both tools and use them on occasion. They have paid for themselves several times.

 

Yeah I might have to just pay a shop to do a couple. I would really like to be set up in my fab shop, but I just moved and currently have no shop. For those that have a slip roller, have you tried doing 1/8" flat bar in it? I eventually found one manual roller(that does 3" wide up to 1/4"!) But it's 2k and that's not going to happen.

 

I have an old Pexto 36-inch slip roller made for 1/16" material.
I regularly roll pieces of steel that are 1/8" thick 3 to 4 inches wide and occasionally up to 12 inches wide.
I have even rolled stainless steel flat bar 1/4×2" on that roller.
Keep the material near the ends and not the center. Get a motor or electric drive like the Harbor Freight pipe threader. I use the pipe threader on the slip roller and pipe roller. I even make an adapter for the HF pipe threader to square drive for rollers.

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Get a ring roller from Shop Outfitters. I have had mine for many years and it does an excellent job. It took forever to find a used one. They are not cheap but work great !

https://shopoutfitters.com/product/338-heavy-duty-ring-arch-roller-package-deal/

Amazon has knockoffs but I think only do 2'' wide.

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That was the one I found. 2k is too high for me right now.vi would think you could build it for 600 bucks

 

IMO your client is not considering the right product for his application unless I am missing something

By tree ring do you mean a 3foot diameter ring at the base of a tree ( sitting on the ground) to act as a border?

If so , 14 gauge coreten would be easy to roll 4-8 “ tall strips” and not worry about corrosion

 

If that is it, then bump it til it works. Use a partial radius as a pattern bending pattern.

 

Yes, I do. We want corrosion, everything in Tucson is rusted and that's what everyone likes.

 

That's very smart about the partial radius. I also have an oxy torch setup, and was wondering if that might be a good way to go?... Especially for the smaller circles. Would bumping it beat the hell out of it?

I was wondering maybe I should make a wooden Buck and wrap it around and weld it?

I called four fab shops this afternoon and nobody said they would roll 3" x 1/8" flatbar... They said 18 guage at most.

 

store bought Coreten landscape edging is 14 gauge i believe and comes in various widths.

just form your circle on site.

no need to "reinvent the wheel" and make a JOB out of this unless you really need the hours. lol

 

Honestly, I think the premade ones look like ****. If I get/make a roller down the road, I can make them cheaper and it is something I can sell( currently landscaping to make money, but am trying to get into landscape design/metal landscape things.

Not reinventing the wheel, just making it prettier and profitable. A welded steel ring at 1/8" just looks very clean and intentional. This will be my first thing I can sell to someone that is landscape related and I really need something to put on my Instagram/FB to let people know that I am capable of building things(as simple as this is)...one thing always leads to another.

It's really a B that 3" wide rollers are so expensive. Right now I'm inside taking a break from playing with some 1" strap out in my yard and thinking about wooden bucks and torching it.

 

Just make sure you get the ring around the tree before you weld it. [emoji23]

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buy a 2" roller

roll 1 1-2" material

stack them with a 1/4" space between them ( resulting in a 3.25" tall ring. )

here's a double 2" wide band......

 

And call it a feature!

It's a drain so the rings don't fill up water and wash your mulch away.

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Why not just make it out of 20 to 16 ga stainless and roll them by hand on site. No rust, no paint, no rolling.

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The issue I see with something that light is that it'll get bent up when someone inevitably hits it with the mower deck.

The edging around the front of my house is all pressure treated 1X6s trenched in then staked in and I just run the mower deck right up against it. No weedwacker needed afterward.

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20-16g is just too thin. Also we dont mow in Arizona, but the idea still applies...thin material just looks too thin

 

If you maybe tryna sellem’, then a last may be in order. Rather than rolling a ring evra thyme. Have a ring pattern bent. “Give a man a ring, he will sale that day, but give a man a ring last and he will bend rings forever.”

 

Harbor Freight pipe roller for $249 and flat dies for 3 inch wide flat bar from swag off road for $209.
Could be done on site for custom sizes or pre rolled for standard sizes

You can fit up to 4 inch wide flat bar and roll using 3 inch dies

I made my own flat bar dies out of delrin I had on hand since I am cheap.

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I checked the swag website, and could not find anything for 3" flatbar dies.

 

Harbor Freight pipe roller for $249 and flat dies for 3 inch wide flat bar from swag off road for $209.
Could be done on site for custom sizes or pre rolled for standard sizes

You can fit up to 4 inch wide flat bar and roll using 3 inch dies

I made my own flat bar dies out of delrin I had on hand since I am cheap.

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Harbor Freight pipe roller for $249 and flat dies for 3 inch wide flat bar from swag off road for $209.
Could be done on site for custom sizes or pre rolled for standard sizes

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The Swag Hulk roller is a pain for complete circles. It’s a bit of a chore removing and replacing the drive roller every time.

Not impossible just annoyingly time consuming. (says the retired guy with more time than brains) lol

 

I might not even be using a roller for circles over 4 foot diameter. You can probably do that by hand for 1/8×3 or 1/8×4

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What's a last? Can't find "ring last" on google

 

I think "buck" is a more appropriate term... maybe? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last

Edit: I was going to link to the definition of "buck", but apparently that's an uncommon term, too??? [emoji849]

A buck is a forming tool.

In metal spinning (look up metal spinning, it's kinda cool), the buck is the form that they shape sheetmetal around.

I think some people call body dollies bucks, too.

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Try this

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he can save money and pick another die (such as rolling angle iron on edge ) and get dual use.

i rolled flat bar in mine with whatever roller was in it at the time.

 

Absolutely.
I wasn't sure if he couldn't find that specific die or all the other dies.
A little thinking ahead of what else he might want to make would allow him to use the same die in multiple ways.
I just would not use a die for pipe or tube to roll flat.

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perhaps this will better illustrate what I'm trying to say

The edge roller die indicated by the red arrow is the same price as the flat roller die directly below it