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Eastwood 200 Tig machine

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#1 ·
Anybody know the limit of extending the leads of one of these? I’d like to get a 12’ or 20’ Super Flex tig hose. I ordered one of these on sale but they only come with a 6’ tig lead. I know it’s just an automotive type welder that is to be rolled up close to a project. I asked Eastwood but of course they didn’t have any info on running extended stick or tig leads and I don’t want to damage the machine. Couldn’t afford a Miller right now. Guess all that info is kept in China 😂. Seriously, I’d like to know if anybody has any experience doing that. Merry Christmas everybody!
 
#2 ·
First, there should be virtually no limit on extending TIG or stick leads, if you use a properly designed TIG torch and or properly sized leads. If you are adding something like a CK torch to the welder, I am sure it will be OK. Second, save yourself a lot of trouble and go get this instead of the Eastwood. I know it is a little bit more money, but I think it is a much better welder. The Primeweld has many more features (pulse, etc.) https://primeweld.com/products/tig-225x-ac-dc-tig-welder
 
#4 ·
The input power cord is 6' long

Product info shows the tig torch lead is 12' long

Not to fond that the post flow maxes out at 8 seconds.
 
#7 ·
What machine are you looking at? I see 15 seconds on both of them . The Eastwood limited to 100 hz over 100 ac amps puts big ding in that one..Stubby gas lens fixes the issue when using a 17 type torch
 
#6 ·
Product info shows the torch is a 17 series flex neck. The flex neck makes it a very versatile torch.

I'd order a stubby gas lens set up for the torch. If it doesn't come with a stubby/short back cap , I'd order that too.
 
#9 ·
Maybe I just want a smaller cleaning zone, and more focused arc in fillet weld.. If I am using a inverter I want the flexibility it can allow..120 HZ is my go to freq in general..
If it's not there, 100hz it is.. Really if other things about work well it might be a real nice unit..
 
#12 · (Edited)
Did you order the TIG 200 AC/DC or the Elite 200 ?

I ask because it looks like the TIG 200 has a fixed AC frequency with adjustable balance. Whereas the Elite 200 has adjustable frequency and balance
 
#16 · (Edited)
I have the same machine I think, TIG 200 AC/DC with knobs and no LCD screen. I chose it figuring it’s more maintainable by me then ones with fancy screens, but so far it just works flawlessly. Mine has a pretty long Torch, 12’ I think, It’s coiled up on the bench next to weld table. But if you want longer I thinking adding 25’ is no concern. 100’ you might lose enough voltage to change behavior.

For the ground clamp lead, a generic extension cable with the right size DINSE male/female is readily available From multiple sources including Eastwood. The CK17 torch extension is available here and probably elsewhere.
https://store.cyberweld.com/products/weldcraft-tig-torch-extension-kit-ek-2-25-r
If it’s on a cart and movable, then a 240vac extension cable is cheaper than extending torch, ground, and pedal.

Welding with AC works fine, I just leave the balance control set at 9’oclock. I don’t care about pulse or frequency, more controls is just something to waste time with and get screwed up, I prefer to focus on my technique. It’s a tool, not an entertainment system.

Good luck,
Joe
 
#17 ·
Some people get into trouble with too many features.If they don't know what they can do for you why have them in the first place?
 
#18 ·
Home TIG is strictly DC. So for yrs any aluminum TIG at work has been with a 60 hertz square wave Precision TIG 225. No experience with adjustable frequency, so I've been fine with my fixed frequency. :D. I do use the adjustable balance to my advantage when needed.

I do agree that too many features can create more problems for some. On a MIG the inductance control could turn into more of a problem than a help for some. Even fine voltage control can be to much control for some.
 
#19 ·
Miller diversion was set on a fixed 120 hz -30 percent Electrode positive A 200 amp inverter can benefit using 40 hz --adjustable cleaning farther than a standard tranny can go.--- and HE mix to get it to play with the big boys..The PT-225 has 230 amps AC and that helps over a 200 amp machine..True SQ wave, and other wave forms, adjustable Amplitude bring it back in favor of doing much more with less power.. If you take a air cooled torch on a PT-225 on AC feel how hot it can get . Put the wave balance,amps in the same place on a inverter you will notice the torch stays much cooler..I won't get into all the different things with Tungsten types, and shapes that Inverters run much better if you know about such things,,Some people just don't care, and I like the PT-225 myself but always thought the Miller Syncro 200 had a sweeter arc in general. Just not enough power mostly..
 
#22 ·
Here is what I ended up with..Since the layout, and settings are pretty much standard Thermal-arc,and is easy to use.. I think the DC mix setting with HE mix is going to be a nice option .Easy to setup too..I sold my Lorch/Esab, and just wanted something to get me by. Just could not do the Primeweld 225 (nothing against them)Anyway $498 Amazon Warehouse deals,never opened too.. I still really like my cheap Blue Demon 140 over my Primeweld 145 in how it works..but keeping both for different reasons.It's going to be interesting how this machine matches up with all the tigs I had..Looked ok in this vid. I also liked the Eastwood elite unit, but rather gamble on this one..The torch, foot control, 20 ft leads on stick, and ground is a plus..


https://youtu.be/ewNj5KnkAzg?si=VAZJMIJGLr1C2duF
 

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