I just picked up a used Miller Maxstar 150 STL tonight. The only thing it was missing was the 230V-115V adapter. This owner claimed he bought it to learn TIG but never got the hang of it. The consumable kit still had everything in it. This machine is far short of what I really wanted (Was holding out for a sync 250) but I figured I'd start with this and move up. I do like the portability and ability to use it anywhere....now to find a foot pedal or finger remote