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Lincoln 3350 Viking helmet - battery only?

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#1 ·
Hello all, I recently picked up a Lincoln Migpak 140 to learn how to weld, it was a decent deal off a used online website.
I also picked up a helmet. I got a really great deal on a used Viking 3350, less than half retail but someone who never used it (he died before his welding retirement career took off).
Anyway, when I got it home it didn't work the test button didn't do anything. It didn't darken. I left it in the basement under a light think g it might recharge with its solar cell?
No change.
I took out the lithium batter and it was 2.5v out of 3. Not but but not dead, it should work. I gotta new battery and it was ok, it works.

My question, shouldn't this work with the solar cell as a backup? What's the solar thigh even for if the battery is dead? It had a seemingly regular lithium cr2450 in it, and I replaced it with the same.
Are there rechargeable lithium batteries? Maybe the solar recharges them? I'm surprised it was dead and never used unless it was left in his cold garage over winter which killed it.
 
#2 ·
My question, shouldn't this work with the solar cell as a backup? What's the solar thigh even for if the battery is dead? It had a seemingly regular lithium cr2450 in it, and I replaced it with the same.
I think the solar is only an assist to give longer battery life. Also, those coin batteries need to be tested under some type of load, otherwise, the test is pretty useless. At least that has been my experience.

The data sheet at data.energizer.com/PDFs/cr2450.pdf shows the voltage at 0.39 mA.
 
#8 ·
The helmet is not capable of charging the lithium battery...nor is the battery capable of being recharged. I believe the sole purpose for the replaceable battery is to provide the helmet with the very fast response time of 1/25,000 of a second (40 microseconds). Solar cells are not capable of responding that fast. The helmet uses special arc sensors to auto-darken, than the solar cells provide the majority of the power to maintain the darken state.
 
#10 ·
Because you will find all sorts of things on the internet.

"Information and Product Offerings for CR2450 Coin Cell Lithium Batteries
The CR Lithium battery is a 3 volt, non-rechargeable battery but the good news is that these batteries do offer a very long shelf life, ranging 7-10 years."

There are "rechargeable" CR2450, but they are special case offerings and require a higher rate charger than the solar cells on the helmet are capable of.

Take a look in the Viking 3350 manual? (http://www.lincolnelectric.com/assets/servicenavigator-public/lincoln3/im10095.pdf)

Lincoln would say it is a rechargeable battery and if dead, place helmet in a light source. In fact, the very first line in troubleshooting section states:
"Filter does not darken when TEST button is pressed." "Possible Cause: Low Battery" "Solution: Replace Battery"