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Molten aluminum does glow red

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#1 ·
I've had people tell me that aluminum can't glow red when being welded and while this is true under normal circumstances I have seen it glow bright red when it's being welded and the welder has the temperature set far to high for the material thickness and it suddenly collapses and becomes molten, that being said here is a video of aluminum rims being recycled and you can see that molten aluminum does indeed glow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zOfl9a6Sok
 
#3 · (Edited)
Aluminum freezes at about 1100 - 1400* (depending on alloys). That's a dull red at best. Overheat it and it will be a much brighter red of course. I would hope you never see that bright red color in a weld pool, no need to be much over melt point.

Kind of like water, which as it melts, it likes to stay at 32* while all the water thaws before you see a rise in temperature. It doesn't like to be have dissimilar temperatures until it finishes it's phase change, always trying to maintain thermal uniformity. Aluminum is very thermally conductive like water is.

Thus: a skilled welder that is doing it right has never seen bright red aluminum.

A long time ago I saw a video of mixed scrap being processed. It was an aluminum and steel mix, stuff like transmissions and engine blocks. They brought the whole pile of scrap up to about 1500* and then tipped it to dump out the now-liquid aluminum, magnesium, and zinc. The rest could now be processed as scrap steel. The liquid aluminum was then re-processed as mixed aluminum scrap to get the other alloys out. In that video, I never saw the initial pile glow bright red, just kind of dull red while the liquid aluminum was in there.

Cool videos, I wonder if that is part of their alloy separation process.
 
#4 ·
I'd be wearing more than a set of gloves and goggles if that was me.

I worked at a galvanizing plant years ago and saw guys get burned BAD.... real bad.
by just the slightest bit of water or moisture on a part when dipping into the molten vat.
 
#5 ·
Very true about a skilled welder, this was during my time training at a local for profit school and the student I was watching was on his initial first steps of learning how to tig weld on 1/4 flat bar ally. A group of us was standing around him watching and we saw the surface tension break and open up to show that beautiful mirrored puddle and then without warning the entire length of 3 inches crinkled and dropped and for a moment turned dull red and I brought my shield up to see if it had landed on my boots and there were a few red globs on the ground.

I don't get to weld ally now until I can get a machine in the new shop to do it but hopefully the state will pony up 7G for a dynasty 280 rig so I can fix some of the jobs that have ally in them.