Wow,

That's interesting, George.

And it's cool that a WW member is a beta tester of a new unit like this coming to market.

This one looks like it hits the same selling points as the AHP AlphaTIG, for price ($699, delivered), features, included extras, etc.

Plus, 225 amps, too!

 

Wow,

That's interesting, George.

And it's cool that a WW member is a beta tester of a new unit like this coming to market.

This one looks like it hits the same selling points as the AHP AlphaTIG, for price, features, included extras, etc.

Plus, 225 amps, too!

Geez..like flies to $hit..................LMFAO..........:laugh::laugh::laugh:...............................................................................................................couldnt help it CL..........

 

Nah,

Just not a Debbie Downer...

Of course, I don't mind the banter or antagonism, Hobby. And I'm recently enjoying our semi-debate in the Political Thread, which I seem to be driven into, due to some recent posts of mine being placed there. Previously, I never even bothered to look or post in that thread. But I might start loading up there, since that might be the only place, other than the Everlast Area, that I'm immune from the snowflakes and crybabies. Ha, ha, ha... Otherwise, hopefully the complainers won't come out in George's thread and beg the moderators to relieve their anxiety (as if I'm actually causing it). There's nothing to really cry about here.

I think a new AC/DC TIG unit with AC frequency control to 200Hz is great. 225 amps is a cool niche in amperage, too.

Maybe George will inform us on the max duty-cycle and begin in this thread to give his fuller impression of the AC arc characteristics and HF starts, etc, as I didn't the thread that George did on this unit, only an earlier 250 amp Eastwood MIG unit, that he liked well.

I've seen numerous, extremely good user/buyer feedback regarding other units (identical to one I owned for several years) from the PrimeWeld importer, which reportedly has outstanding support too.

https://www.amazon.com/PrimeWeld-Ct...p/B014ECTCB2/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1523206155&sr=8-2&keywords=Primeweld+welder

It's a good time for welding!

 

Nah,

Just not a Debbie Downer...

Of course, I don't mind the banter or antagonism, Hobby. And I'm recently enjoying our semi-debate in the Political Thread, which I seem to be driven into, due to some recent posts of mine being placed there. Previously, I never even bothered to look or post in that thread. But I might start loading up there, since that might be the only place, other than the Everlast Area, that I'm immune from the snowflakes and crybabies. Ha, ha, ha... Otherwise, hopefully the complainers won't come out in George's thread and beg the moderators to relieve their anxiety (as if I'm actually causing it). There's nothing to really cry about here.

I think a new AC/DC TIG unit with AC frequency control to 200Hz is great. 225 amps is a cool niche in amperage, too.

Maybe George will inform us on the max duty-cycle and begin in this thread to give his fuller impression of the AC arc characteristics and HF starts, etc, as I didn't the thread that George did on this unit, only an earlier 250 amp Eastwood MIG unit, that he liked well.

I've seen numerous, extremely good user/buyer feedback regarding other units (identical to one I owned for several years) from the PrimeWeld importer, which reportedly has outstanding support too.

https://www.amazon.com/PrimeWeld-Ct...p/B014ECTCB2/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1523206155&sr=8-2&keywords=Primeweld+welder

It's a good time for welding!

I was just havin some fun with you..I just said to myself you would be the first cheerleader on this ,,and you were.. and no intent to say anything negative about mechanics post on a true review of a welder...

 

George. Got any more info on your testing or experience with this machine and it's accessories? Are you going to be doing warranty work for them?
US or Chinese based distributor?

 

All I can say is the control face plate and color is the same as the one I tested. I have not tested the production units and have not been asked to. I do not know who will be doing the warranty work for them, as I was not asked to do it.

 

Man it didn't take long for this to go down hill

From the testing I did it worked as well as most tig welders in this price range, they did make thing standard as suggested like the 1/2" dinse and 5/8" x 18 argon fittings as well as updating to a real CK 17FX torch.



Anyway for anyone that would like to have some info on this unit here is some.

10 to 225 amps, AC/DC w/pulse, 120/240 volt, pre and post flow, Ck flex head torch 12 1/2' SF hose with 1/2" dinse with 5/8"x18 standard argon fittings.

Duty cycle 120 volt
TIG 40% @ 140, 100% @ 108
MMA 40% @ 120, 100% @ 76

Duty cycle 240 volt
TIG 40% @ 225, 100% @ 155
MMA 40% @ 180, 100% @ 139

3 Year warranty

For more info contact Primeweld @ primeclickllc@gmail.com

Sold by a seller here in the USA and has been around for a few years has good feedback.

 

would you receommend this primeweld welder over ahp alpha tig 220?

 

Hey George, I'm more curious about the business model.

There are an uncountable number of imported machines of various styles and capacities.

I wonder how many "companies" are still companies 5-10 years later?

How did you get chosen as a beta tester? Has the company (not the re-seller) been making welders for a long time?

Do you think the trend of "throw away" machines will continue to expand, or eventually even out somehow?

 

Ha, ha, ha...

Yeah, Southpaw, is that a trigger for you?

Otherwise, 40% duty-cycle at 225 amps on 240 volts is quite good on a TIG unit.

Yeah, no sweat, Hobby! But I'll recommed that you figure out how to "Reply With Quote" with only a snippet of the quote, so that the thread doesn't become so tacky.

And, Dave, some of these PrimeWeld units are identical to the Lotos stuff, and the GiantTech CAT520D Combo that I bought years ago, which outlasted the warrantee, and is still used by a friend.

The PrimeWeld importer seems to have good support and user feedback. Even a unit like the CAT520D can be repaired, after warrantee, I believe, in other places beyond the importer, too.

Maybe even George himself could handle repairing some PrimeWeld units in the years to come, if PrimeWeld folds up its proverbial tent.

 

Dave, All I can say is I was asked by the seller to test a few welders and plasma cutters. I had dealt with the seller before so I said sure. The units were shipped to me in plain boxes with no names on them they were all proto types. I opened every unit up to see how they were made and tested them told them what was wrong with them, how to improve them, if they were even worth selling.

I really don't know who made them for sure, but from being inside them I think I know who made a few and they have been around for some time.

Here is my take on "throw away" machines,

As far as how long the new style welders will last its hard to say. The trouble is that once someone makes a good unit and puts it on the market, someone copys it with lesser quality parts and drops the price the good ones stop selling and are not made or imported.

Case in point Lincoln SW TIG 200 and the Vulcan PRO-TIG 200

 

My future crystal ball says that we (the USA) will be forever importing cheap machines that may or may not work.

It will end up like the Craftsman company - and the various companies that sell the same product.
Each new model will be from a different source and will be unknown for reliability - several companies will get large enough to also buy the same machines in different paint. When that line runs out, the process will start again.

There will be no continuity and name brands will end up not mattering very much. The "quest" will be who can sell the same box the cheapest.

I think the heavy industrial units like Invertec 350 pro and such will be unaffected. Same for the large Dynasty machines.
No mass produced profit to be had copying such an expensive machine.

 

Yeah,

I wouldn't be surprise if PrimeWeld gets or has an exclusive deal with the factory for this particular TIG unit design in the N.A. marketplace.

I mean, I haven't seen it anywhere before.

Time will tell.

But PrimeWeld seems like a strong upstart/importer here.

I mean, I paid $549, delivered, on sale, for my GiantTech CAT520D TIG/Plasma unit, over seven years ago.

And today, PrimeWeld has the identical unit on Amazon for $399, delivered.

That is really amazing to me, especially with being contrary to Federal Reserve monetary and price inflation, targeted at 2% per year.

 

Good to hear your machine is still going strong !

 

Cool. Did you take the cover off and get any pics of the insides

 

I take the cover off all welders and plasma cutters that come in the shop for repair or testing before I even plug them in.

Pictures, yes but they were sent on to the seller with do's, don't and changes to be made. I didn't keep them as proto type machines have things not even tied down wires going every which way, and a lot of this gets changed and are not what you get in the end.

I had one welder and one plasma cutter that was DOA, got the welder working but wasn't up to par so it got scraped. Was getting ready to scrap out the plasma cutter but got it working last week, so I will keep it in the shop for my own use until it dies or I give it away to a needy person.

 

Ok this will trigger Christian.

But I find it interesting that it seems more companies are reaching out to users in the industry for testing and design input with these beta testers. Like what they did with you and with Terry. I think the internet has a lot to do with it as well. It can make or break your product. I came across a brand of winch I had never heard of on another welding forum thread, Engo. Read about the user's experience, read a shootout in a popular magazine, they picked this winch 3rd and the warn 1st. Even though the warn actually grenaded itself in the stall test and leaked brown crud in the underwater test. The Engo was only 1 of 2 winches to pass all the tests. So there is obvious bias to their biggest advertisers. But internet comments on the product get the name out there. Individual users experiences count for a lot. I'm sure Terry has been responsible for some members buying a Vulcan welder.
Hopefully they will send you the updated version based on your input and you can have more to say about it.

 

Ok this will trigger Christian.

Maybe, but he won't be able to respond. #ban hammer

 

I guess the other welder brands have already taken all the exciting colors, except for pink.... They chose black, is it a "Black Unicorn"? I guess in China there is only one shade of green and it's already spoken for.

 

Lincoln turns pink if you leave it out in the sun long enough

 

As far as I know AHP only makes a 200 amp unit, this one is 225 amps.

I have used both and other then the pre-flow and 25 more amps they weld about the same.

 

there will always be a market for cheap disposable welders for the group that isnt sure if welding is their thing, they would be willing to spend a few hundred to try it out, most that have knowledge and some skill will spend more for a quality welder and many more that will upgrade to an expensive welder as their skill and bank account allows...I dont think the big name companies want to produce a cheap welder to compete with the sub $1000.00 market...it would be hard to build a unit of quality and have any profit to show..

 

I dont think the big name companies want to produce a cheap welder to compete with the sub $1000.00 market...it would be hard to build a unit of quality and have any profit to show..

I agree, but the illusion is when people believe they get the same functionality for a fraction of the price...in most cases they work, I have a unit that does, but it's a POS at the end of the day...and not the type of tool I want in my shop.

I'd pay extra for a square wave 250

Indeed, I would also...in fact, I would only want one change to the SW200 at minimum, that being better pulse, 0-200pps would be much more useful than 0-20pps.

For me it comes down to probability.

Maybe we just need to keep an eye on Lincoln, they seem to have a void in their product line for a portable unit in the 250amp range...at the end of the day I feel that Lincoln and Miller will prevail. I completely agree with your statement, these inexpensive import inverters will be coming into America for the unforeseeable future...

That said, it allowed me to get started with tig as well as gain SMAG skills as well. How long my inverter will continue to work is anyone's guess. I predict I'll have a replacement before it fails me. I'm pretty sure it won't be an Everlast, not with the way they treated me...:nono:

The good thing is I should be able to sell my POS inverter and recover most of my money after all is said and done. Even if I lose 50% of my investment, it won't break the bank for me. I'm keeping all of their crappy Chinesium accessories to package with the welder when I sell it. I'm replacing all of it with quality accessories. I only have the ground clamp and torch left to replace, and the torch has a gas lens and stubby kit installed and a flex head 26 which replaced the solid head 26 torch. Works ok for me, but a ck torch is in my future as-is a better grounding clamp.

I've already replaced the stinger, flowmeter, argon hose, and bought a decent pedal. Most of this makes more difference than the inverter itself.

 

I know its been awhile since anyone added to this post but it'd be really cool to know if you guys have made/know someone who has made some sort of review video of this unit. Comparing and contrasting this unit with an AHP 200X (which everyone seems to be nuts about) but I wanted to look at something different and this unit drew my interest. I'm just a hobby welder on a budget but looking to upgrade from my entry level Chinese-made machine to a slightly more capable Chinese-made machine, cheers.

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Coplay-Norstar M200M

 

25 more amps, pre-flow and comes with a REAL CK torch. All you have to do is call me.

 

Does anyone know where I can get a user's manual for this welder?
Also, the website address of the USA distributor would be nice as well.
All I have been able to find with searching is the unit for sale on Amazon and a couple of other places.
I have not been able to uncover websites, emails, or phone numbers that could be used to get support for this welder.

 

primeclickllc@gmail.com 1-856-537-4368

 

Thanks for the info. Do they not have a website or some other support site?
I would like to be able to download the manual and take a look at it before purchasing.

 

Email or call them to find out if they have a website

 

For $775.00 I'm going to give one a try, I need a small machine for up at our cabin for odd jobs, My Dynasty is a pain in the butt to move back and forth!
Thanks George..

 

did Amazon get some more in stock? Has been currently unavailable for a while now. and no price even comes up. (We don't know when or if this item will be back in stock.)

Nice torch and impressive specs for that price for sure

 

I was told the next shipment will be the third week of October. Also the Primecut 60 plasma cutter with CNC port will be in the October shipment.

Don't know what the new prices will be, it will all depend on the import tax imposed on them.

 

You are on the mark George,

Amazon says in stock on the 27th and is listing the price at the same $775
still comes with the ck 17 flex head torch.

 

For reasons unknown to me the wholesale prices from China for these machines dropped considerably.

 

Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner Dan, they are available now. I received mine a couple of days ago, I haven't had a chance to really put it thru it's paces yet but did a few beads in both ac and dc and it seems to work just fine especially for the price. I own a Dynasty 300DX for my home shop, figured I would get this to keep up at our cabin for odd jobs and repairs. The high frequency isn't quite as strong as the Dynasty if the tungsten is a little frosted up but after a very lite rub on the tungsten on the base metal it fires up every time. The fans are on the strong side and don't shut off, air comes out the front and both sides so don't plan on having this setting right next to where your welding, I guess its better to have the fans moving more air than not enough. So far I'm impressed, time will tell, it comes with everything you need other than a bottle of argon, even came with a nema 6-plug. I figured if it lasts me 3 years it will cost me about .70 cents a day Here's a short video of Aaron "6061.com" using one, he was also a beta tester for them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_XpoTGjxtA&t=67s

 

interesting machine. its only 4 months later and this machine is no where to be found on the internet for sale.
gone already ? my god...
that may be because they sell so many that they can't keep them in stock .

Product Dimensions: 24 x 19 x 12 inches ; 90 pounds - thats a big boy....damn

 

Interesting thing that was said on a FB Page today in a conversation about the AHP 201 having an upgraded torch when I brought up the Primeweld coming with a CK17.


"I was thinking about that too, but I have asked some people and they don't seem to be making that one anymore. But the AHP keeps improving the AlphaTig..."

I'm not sure where he got that info though.

 

The Primeweld 225 will be here around the first week of March. The last order sold out in 3 days. We already have orders to fill as soon as they get here. Also in the near future they will have a receptacle for your water cooler to plug into on the back.

 

That's nice to hear. I actually came across a FB group for the Primeweld, and the creator posted an email about more coming in.